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11/6/06 8:07 PM |
Byron | | Texas | | ![](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/gray2.gif) | ![Find all comments by Byron](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/magnifier.gif) |
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Discerned Believer: I think it is strange that you think Paul would have to. Paul was a Calvinist himself. As were all the apostles. Jesus Christ Himself was a Calvinist, and we have the beautiful book of John to understand and appreciate as a result.The passage of 1 Timothy 2 that you mention has been discussed theologically by Calvinists while retaining fidelity to the text and accuracy of translation. Please see the following links. http://www.theopedia.com/Limited_atonement http://www.the-highway.com/1Tim2.4.html http://www.calvinistgadfly.com/?p=107 And a whole page of links to other reading material can be found here: http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/topic/definiteatonement.html |
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11/6/06 7:34 PM |
Byron | | Texas | | ![](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/gray2.gif) | ![Find all comments by Byron](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/magnifier.gif) |
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Dwayne, Dwayne. Or should I say, 9/11, 9/11? Or should I say, Freewiller, Freewiller?I never said that believers remain worms in God's sight after salvation, though to be fair, I didn't express that thought explicitly. My point simply was, there's nothing in us to merit God's favor or grace; He is not obligated to save anyone; the fact that He DOES save His elect remnant is to His praise and glory alone of His sovereign free grace. Christ alone is our redemption and righteousness, not the filthy rags of self-righteousness and works-based salvation (the "Be Good. Earn a Cookie." concept carried over into theology, buried, and gone to seed). You champion free will. I champion God's free grace. And I solemnly warn you, flee to Christ. He alone is your only hope of salvation. Merit is found only in His blood, and only by His works, done in His own free will as the sinless God-man sent from God the Father to purchase and effectually redeem His own elect sheep. |
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11/6/06 6:41 PM |
Byron | | Texas | | ![](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/gray2.gif) | ![Find all comments by Byron](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/magnifier.gif) |
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I'm also intrigued by the question, "how low can you go?" It seems that the Arminian mind (and especially the Pelagian one) recoils at the thought of being considered a lowly worm in God's sight, impotent and undeserving of salvation, which is the Biblical and pride-repulsive truth. Man? A worm? Gasp, the horror.No, Salvation is of the Lord (Jonah 2:9). God freely shows grace and compassion on whomever He desires, without obligation or necessity (Ex. 33:19, Rom. 9:15). As for those God does not elect unto salvation, who are we to dare question God in the sovereignty of His Holiness (Rom. 9:20-21)? The fact is, God endures with much patience those whom He has fitted to be vessels worthy only of destruction (Rom. 9:22) but also makes known the inestimable richness of His glory upon the elect vessels of mercy prepared ahead of time for glory (Rom. 9:23) Read Romans 9 honestly, and a commentary that handles the text accurately. God is both completely Sovereign and Holy at the same time, and He is the only absolute standard of righteousness and goodness that exists. I'm not saying that I have this whole thing completely figured out---I don't---but I do believe in the truth that the inerrant Bible teaches. |
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11/6/06 5:16 PM |
Byron | | Texas | | ![](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/gray2.gif) | ![Find all comments by Byron](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/magnifier.gif) |
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Freewiller: I was beginning to think my usage of the phrase "froth-at-the-mouth freewillers" in an earlier post was a bit extreme, but now I see from your post it is justifiable, after all. Thanks. I do admit I posted that too hastily, however.Your accusation that I am a fatalist is incorrect. This simply shows you do not understand my theological position. Fortunately, such ignorance is rectifiable. Even better, explanatory references are freely available online. This brings me to the following point: I have a reading assignment for you. Please read the following two resources. Properly understood, these materials should helpfully disabuse you of your faulty religious philosophy giving rise to your emotionally abrasive and unhelpful tone. http://www.founders.org/FJ45/editorial_fr.html http://www.bloomingtonrpchurch.org/refdocpre/15.htm You asked, how low can you go? But I ask, how much will you read and understand? |
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11/6/06 3:29 PM |
Byron | | Texas | | ![](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/gray2.gif) | ![Find all comments by Byron](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/magnifier.gif) |
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Dwayne Mayor, you said:You claim that God has no obligation to save anyone, and yet hypocritically assert that he MUST SAVE YOU because you believe in his "undeserved mercy and grace" which will allow him to impute the righteousness of Him who was "born from above" to YOU, a child of Satan. OK, I cannot follow your reasoning here. Where you came up with the idea that I somehow obligate God's salvation based upon my beliefs is beyond me--that's a product of your theology, perhaps, but not mine. God is not obligated to save anyone. That includes me, you, everyone on SA, everyone who's ever been born, everyone who will ever be born, and so forth. You accuse me of being a child of Satan, without knowing me or knowing my heart. You have no idea who I am. Yet you are quick to condemn eternally someone you barely even know. That again says a lot about the condition of your heart. My prayer is that God will humble you and save you and show the truth of His grace and mercy. |
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11/6/06 2:56 PM |
Byron | | Texas | | ![](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/gray2.gif) | ![Find all comments by Byron](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/magnifier.gif) |
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Dwayne Mayor:You said, "At least Calvin was actually good at it, and knew what Scriptures NOT to reference lest he destroy his own utterly cruel and hateful theology." LOL!!! The fact that you would call the sovereignty of God utterly cruel and hateful theology says more about the spiritual condition of your heart (especially in its relationship to God) than I ever could. Thank you for your words. Matt. 12:37 (NASB) says, "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned." If you would study John 1:10-13, you would understand that belief preceded reception of Christ, and that being born precedes belief, and the fact that God is the author of this birth precedes the birth itself. So, sir, you are simply in error. God has mercy upon whomever He will, and only those. He has no obligation to save anyone. The fact that He DOES save a remnant He alone elects, is to the praise of His grace and glory. |
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11/6/06 1:40 PM |
Byron | | Texas | | ![](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/gray2.gif) | ![Find all comments by Byron](https://media.sermonaudio.com/images/web/images/magnifier.gif) |
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Dwayne Mayor = 9/11 Was An Inside Job?Hmmmmm. Yes, man must be born again. However, salvation is not in man's power or will or even desire (Man does not truly desire God or to forsake sin before God's sovereign grace converts him from a sinner into a saint). Please read John 1:10-13 (especially verse 13, noting the context) and the entire chapter of John 3. Salvation is of the Lord. Period. Humility in recognition of the sovereignty of God's grace, and thankfulness for God's undeserved mercy and grace upon the repentant sinner whose very repentance and faith are gifts from God, are both in order. What is not in order, is a holier-than-thou attitude concerning personal righteousness (which oddly enough, reminds me of the Biblical Pharisees). Paraphrasing Spurgeon I believe it was: may God save all His elect, and then elect some more! |
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