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Survey11/20/06 4:05 PM
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1 John 4:2 (KJV)

"Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:"

I affirm this wholeheartedly without reservation. Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is impossible to dispute if one believes God's Word.

But what this has to do with anything we've been discussing is still a mystery to me.


Survey11/20/06 4:02 PM
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MBL: (re: Acts 13). OK. I accept that.

Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

MBL, I said it. And I believe it. And I still have no idea what you are talking about here, sorry. I believe Jesus Christ is God come personally in the flesh and born in Bethlehem according to Micah 5:2, lived sinlessly, died, and rose again. I believe His divine existence is eternal and that He has always been the Son of God, different in person but equal in essence with God. And I believe that Jesus Christ's physical body is still alive and will remain so, for eternity.

As far as I know, I'm definitely orthodox (with a little o) on this issue.


Survey11/20/06 3:56 PM
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Just one quick comment about the "Resurrection" issue.

I have no idea what MBL thinks is heresy that the Reformed teaching holds. I shouldn't have spoken and said he was wrong, when I have no real knowledge of what he is accusing. However, to the best of my knowledge, I don't see anything wrong in classical Reformed teaching in general.

I affirm that Christ came in the flesh, that He is the second person of the Trinity. I affirm His bodily resurrection from the dead, and a resurrection of the good and the wicked in the future. And I suppose that's all I can say until I study the issue further.


Survey11/20/06 3:49 PM
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MBL:

OK, I agree 100% with your post of 3:34 PM. I think I have to admit I was mistaken in my thinking. You made a great point with your comment, "You see: Gentleness, patience and meekness are relative, depending upon who you are speaking to."

However, back to the other... In Acts 13, Paul was filled with the Holy Spirit to give specifically the condemnation he gave (point taken concerning rebuking him and doing so strongly, but this is a special case: the exact kind of rebuke given and that God supernaturally intervened make this a special case, and not one you can include in your general list of Scriptures concerning rebuke-giving).

As for the so-called "heresy" of the Reformed teaching of the resurrection, I have no knowledge of this issue. I'll have to study on it.

You asked: "Can you confess that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh?"

Yes, of course. He is God, come in the flesh, the second person of the Trinity, who lived sinlessly, died for the redemption of sinners on the cross, and rose again from the dead, proving His deity and sinless humanity (One divine person in human flesh).

So I'm not sure what you are looking for in your question.


Survey11/20/06 3:34 PM
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MBL:

If I understand you correctly, that you are claiming that the Reformed view of the resurrection is the same as that of Hymenaeus and Philetus in 2 Tim 2:18, then that claim is simply incorrect, as best as I can tell. If that is your claim, what is your evidence?


Survey11/20/06 3:30 PM
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MBL:

And you are again neglecting to mention that God struck Elymas with blindness for a time, making the Acts 13 a special case. This was a direct action of God's in judgment on the unbeliever, not merely "earnestly contend[ing]" as you put it.


Survey11/20/06 3:28 PM
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Well, maybe not prayer specifically, but hope on the part of the true teacher should be there that God will grant repentance.

Survey11/20/06 3:26 PM
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MBL:

If I am opposing myself, and am ensnared by the devil, and so forth, then I am honestly unaware of it. I am confident that this is not the case. I don't see where the verse commands that the false teacher be aware of these facts, anyway. What I do see, is the prayer on the part of the true teacher that God may grant repentance and knowledge of the truth to the opponent.

You make good points about rebuking others and I do agree with you there. What I was disagreeing with was your attitude that I perceived when you did it: self-righteousness, arrogance, and all the rest. I simply meant that someone should not be these things when attempting to rebuke someone else. Perhaps my perception is wrong.


Survey11/20/06 3:11 PM
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MBL:

I'm sorry, I don't understand question 1. How am I opposing myself?

The context concerns dealing with false teachers. If someone is the Lord's slave, or at least thinks they are (as I hope I am), then they would seek to obey this verse in being kind to all, an apt teacher, and patient, correcting opponents with gentleness (this is the NET translation here). The hope of the true teacher is that God will grant repentance and knowledge of the truth to his opponents, so they can escape the Devil's entrapments.

Now, either you think I am a false teacher or a true, but that doesn't change the context of the verse or its admonition to Christian teachers/pastors (as best as I understand it).


Survey11/20/06 3:02 PM
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I agree with what Light from Right said. Another good read on this, especially in a salvation context, is John Piper's "Are there two wills in God?" I think that's the title.

Survey11/20/06 2:58 PM
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No, let's talk about what's really important: Truth. That's all that really matters, and not personalities. I have a question, please, which I would like answered.

Of greater concern to me is your interpretation of Scripture. Why does 2 Timothy 2:24-26 not apply to you in the situation of us communicating here? While, on the other hand, Paul cursing someone in the Holy Spirit (where God also struck his opponent blind for a time, a fact you conveniently dismiss or ignore) who was opposing salvation applies here, when as far as I understand, salvation isn't even our context?


Survey11/20/06 2:58 PM
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MBL:

OK, I'll come clean and try to be as honest as I can. I confess I don't like the attitude of many of your posts, or the spirit in which you often write. Some of your posts definitely fall into the "self-righteous jerk" category, but not all do. It is possible that these posts do not completely reflect your personality, or that you are much nicer elsewhere than here. Perhaps I am wrong for thinking your posts are that of a self-righteous jerk type. If so, please prove me wrong.

And yes, the statements I made such as "Have a nice day" and "Have a nice life" were not sincere, or meant to be. They were statements of dismissal. It was basically a polite way of telling you that your time would better be spent elsewhere as I saw no profit in continuing the conversation.

Your response to all the above was rudeness in immaturity and insults, and I suppose that's fine with me. I didn't come here looking for that, but I will deal with it as it comes to the best of my ability. Having my honor insulted and integrity questioned is no longer the surprise or affliction it used to be.


Survey11/20/06 1:40 PM
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Are most people here KJV only? I sure hope not. I prefer the NASB myself.

Survey11/20/06 1:34 PM
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Well, I was wrong for posting "stoop down to your level" so I apologize to you MBL. I've changed my comment accordingly. But besides confessing this, I have no further desire to talk with you.

Have a nice life.


Survey11/20/06 1:25 PM
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MBL, you have no idea who I am or what my ministry is. I think you also have no clue what you are talking about, but that is besides the point. Our conversation is finished, as far as I'm concerned. I prefer to have a rational, intelligent conversation, so I refuse to simply argue with you.

Have a nice day.


Survey11/20/06 1:15 PM
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MBL:

Where have I been a hypocrite?

And why, exactly, do you post here? If your objective is to refute error and gain converts to your way of thinking, why does your method include rude comments, insults, and baseless allegations?

That doesn't help you!


Survey11/20/06 1:03 PM
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MBL, I didn't call you a self-righteous jerk.

Here's what I said: "I didn't see anywhere in Ephesians 5 mention made of being a self-righteous jerk while defending truth, either."

I was trying to make a point: we don't need to add any offense of our own to the natural offense that the truth has, at times. Did you not see 2 Timothy 2:24-26?

I don't personally care for your attitude, or the spirit in which you post. If everyone disagrees with you, and you act rudely towards them, then you are certainly not helping your own cause. I have found this out the hard way. Also, people tend to take more seriously the rebukes and reproofs they find to be truthful.


Survey11/20/06 12:35 PM
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What's wrong with the ESV? What about the NASB? Or ASV? Or do some only want KJV?

Survey11/20/06 12:17 PM
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MBL:

I didn't see anywhere in Ephesians 5 mention made of being a self-righteous jerk while defending truth, either.

It's good to be able and willing to defend truth. We are called to defend the truth, and do so with devotion. But sometimes the truth itself is offensive enough without having to add any offense of our own to it.

2 Timothy 2:24-26 (ESV)
24And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26and they may escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.

Also, 1 Cor 10:12 (ESV)
Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

James 1:19-21 (ESV)
19Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; 20for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness that God requires. 21Therefore put away all filthiness and rampant wickedness and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.


Survey11/20/06 11:30 AM
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I have to agree with Yamil Luciano on this one. If the Holy Spirit hadn't led us into the truth, where would we be? And thank God for His Word, as well!
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