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 1/23/07 11:36 PM |
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for asking. We at the CELO tried to define terms but the computers just plain froze---to difficult to figure out exactly who or what is evangelical  . Evangelical comes from the greek for Gospel: Evangel or Evangelion or something like that. However, many people make compromises with the Gospel: Universal salvation, ecumenism, etc, so that's why it's confusing..and then there are evangelical Catholics, and I think even some baptist evangelicals(trying to revive the more liberal baptist groups), and on and on. |
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| 1/21/07 11:28 AM |
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Albert,
You're asking for one to do something so you'd believe, right? That's not according to faith as Jesus taught. I think you are referring to Mark 16: speaking in new languages, taking up snakes, and drinking poison. Well,it happened in the Bible, so it's true. Jesus said some would drink poison and surive, but it's not listed in the New Testament anybody did that, so it must be others later and not just Apostles or those to whom they preached. I believe it's true, that Christian people have drank poison and lived. It's quite logical to think so. Afterall if Jesus said it, why can't I believe it to be true. Here's something for you to try out: Can you prove that such signs have never happened or are all fake? Now we're even. |
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| 1/21/07 1:39 AM |
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Good point, Chris. I'm with you on that. Lurker, the gifts of the Holy Ghost are so closely intertwined with believing, I think the cessation is yet to come. The gospel is still being preached, people are believing and being baptized even today, and these are included in the context of speaking new languages among "them that believe"(Mark 16). To harmonize Jesus' words with Paul's means for me to say the cessation of the manifestations and gifts of the Holy Ghost is to be fulfilled in the future. As for details, all I see(from a literal reading of the accounts) is that when the Holy Ghost comes upon believers, they speak in new languages they never learned, they magnify God, they prophesy, and speak with boldness. And this promise if "for you and for your children and for all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call." So the cessation will occur after this time of grace, calling, and repentance. It hasn't yet happened. |
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1/22/07 10:37 PM
