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6/9/08 6:40 PM |
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Michael Hranek wrote: Let me ask you a question, "Is there a single person who has ever lived or ever will who came to Jesus Christ to be saved from their sins that Jesus didn't save?" All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (Joh 6:37)… I lay down my life for the sheep. (Joh 10:15) ...for he shall save his people from their sins. (Mat 1:21) He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. (Isa 53:11) All the sinners (His people, sheep, friends, church, the many) that the Father gave Christ will come to Him and they are the ones for whom Christ died and made propitiation for and to whom Christ’s righteousness is imputed. |
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6/8/08 9:08 PM |
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Michael Hranek wrote: Since there is a "version" of Calvinism that claims God only loves the elect and hates everyone else, a version of "John Calvinism" that persecutes and has even used (abused) the power of the state to put people to death I have to consider if this "the love of many will grow cold" has any application to such "Calvinists" who act like they know all the mysteries of God and hate everybody but those who dot the i's and cross the t's of their version of 5 point Calvinism? Instead of your hateful condemnations why don’t you prove from the Scriptures that Christ made propitiation for every man. No Calvinist that I know of has ever stated that they know all the mysteries of God but have only stated what God’s own revealed Word says and by claiming that Calvinists hate everybody who doesn’t believe in 5 point Calvinism you are bearing false witness. By your attitude I would say you hate 5 point Calvinists by implying that all 5 pointers would persecute and kill anyone who disagrees with them, which is also bearing false witness. |
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6/8/08 6:06 PM |
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Propitiation : Christ is the propitiation to God for sin; which must be understood of his making satisfaction to divine justice, for the sins of his people; these were imputed to him, and being found on him, the law and justice of God made demands on him for them; which he answered to satisfaction, by his obedience and sacrifice; and which, as it could not be done by any other, nor in any other way, is expressed by "reconciliation", and "atonement": whence God may be said to be pacified, or made propitious. Christ made propitiation only for His people because if Christ died for those who end up in hell, he is not a faithful high priest. He failed to mediate for some of whom he died (if the Arminian is right). And if Christ died for those in hell, He did not make propitiation! According to the Arminian, Christ failed to propitiate because even though he died for them, many will end up in hell. Arminians do not believe Christ made "propitiation for the sins of His people". They believe Christ shed his blood for those in hell but could not save them. |
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6/7/08 12:21 AM |
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Michael Hranek wrote: Romans 3 ...whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood... Propitiation : Christ is the propitiation to God for sin; which must be understood of his making satisfaction to divine justice, for the sins of his people; these were imputed to him, and being found on him, the law and justice of God made demands on him for them; which he answered to satisfaction, by his obedience and sacrifice; and which, as it could not be done by any other, nor in any other way, is expressed by "reconciliation", and "atonement": whence God may be said to be pacified, or made propitiousChrist made propitiation only for His people because if Christ died for those who end up in hell, he is not a faithful high priest. He failed to mediate for some of whom he died (if the Arminian is right). And if Christ died for those in hell, He did not make propitiation! According to the Arminian, Christ failed to propitiate because even though he died for them, many will end up in hell. Arminians do not believe Christ made "propitiation for the sins of His people". They believe Christ shed his blood for those in hell but could not save them. |
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6/6/08 8:15 PM |
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CHAPTER V. On the necessity, in adults, of preparation for Justification, and whence it proceeds. The Synod furthermore declares, that in adults, the beginning of the said Justification is to be derived from the prevenient [Page 33] grace of God, through Jesus Christ, that is to say, from His vocation, whereby, without any merits existing on their parts, they are called; that so they, who by sins were alienated from God, may be disposed through His quickening and assisting grace, to convert themselves to their own justification, by freely assenting to and co-operating with that said grace: in such sort that, while God touches the heart of man by the illumination of the Holy Ghost, neither is man himself utterly without doing anything while he receives that inspiration, forasmuch as he is also able to reject it; yet is he not able, by his own free will, without the grace of God, to move himself unto justice in His sight. Whence, when it is said in the sacred writings: Turn ye to me, and I will turn to you, we are admonished of our liberty; and when we answer; Convert us, O Lord, to thee, and we shall be converted, we confess that we are prevented by the grace of God. |
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6/6/08 7:36 PM |
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The Council of Trent The Sixth Session CANON V.- If anyone shall affirm, that since the fall of Adam, man’s freewill is lost and extinguished; or, that it is a thing titular, yea a name, without a thing, and a fiction introduced by Satan into the Church; let such an one be accursed"! CANON XV.-If any one saith, that a man, who is born again and justified, is bound of faith to believe that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; let him be anathema. CANON XVII.-If any one saith, that the grace of Justification is only attained to by those who are predestined unto life; but that all others who are called, are called indeed, but receive not grace, as being, by the divine power, predestined unto evil; let him be anathema. The Synod furthermore declares, that in adults, the beginning of the said Justification is to be derived from the prevenient [Page 33] grace of God, through Jesus Christ, that is to say, from His vocation, whereby, without any merits existing on their parts, they are called; that so they, who by sins were alienated from God, may be disposed through His quickening and assisting grace, to convert themselves to their own justification, by freely assenting to and co-operating with that said grace... continues |
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6/4/08 9:27 PM |
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For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. (1Co 2:2)… he had a spiritual and experimental knowledge of Christ himself…and this qualified him to make him known to others; and which knowledge he was very willing and ready to communicate by preaching the Gospel, which is the means of making known Christ as God's salvation to the souls of men…he made known the things respecting the person of Christ, as that he was God, the Son of God, and truly man. God and man in one person; the things respecting his office, as that he was the Messiah, the mediator, prophet, priest, and King, the head, husband, Saviour, and Redeemer of his people; and the things respecting his work as such, and the blessings of grace procured by him; as that justification is by his righteousness, pardon by his blood, peace, reconciliation, and atonement by his sacrifice, and salvation alone and entirely by him. His determination was to preach none but Christ; not himself, nor man; nor the power and purity of human nature, the free will and works of the creature, but to exclude all and everything from being partners with Christ in the business of salvation… |
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6/4/08 4:09 PM |
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Calvin on John 1:13The will of the flesh and the will of man appear to me to mean the same thing ...the Evangelist repeats the same thing in a variety of words, in order to explain it more fully, and impress it more deeply on the minds of men. Though he refers directly to the Jews, who gloried in the flesh, yet from this passage a general doctrine may be obtained: that our being reckoned the sons of God does not belong to our nature, and does not proceed from us, but because God begat us willingly, (James 1:18,) that is, from undeserved love. Hence it follows, first, that faith does not proceed from ourselves, but is the fruit of spiritual regeneration; for the Evangelist affirms that no man can believe, unless he be begotten of God; and therefore faith is a heavenly gift. It follows, secondly, that faith is not bare or cold knowledge, since no man can believe who has not been renewed by the Spirit of God. |
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6/2/08 10:19 PM |
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In his sermon on Genesis 3:15, Whitefield wrote, “That the Lord Jesus Christ was the second Adam, with whom the Father entered into covenant for fallen man; that they can now do nothing of or for themselves, and should therefore come to God beseeching him to give them faith, by which they shall be enabled to lay hold on the righteousness of Christ; and that faith they will then shew forth by their works, out of love and gratitude to the ever blessed Jesus, their most glorious redeemer, for what he has done for their souls. This is a consistent scriptural scheme; without holding this, we must run into one of those two bad extremes; I mean, Antinominanism on the one hand, or Arminianianism on the other: from both which may the good Lord deliver us!”On March 15, 1740, he preached in a Baptist-meeting house in Charleston and wrote, “I was led to shew the utter inability of man to save himself... |
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5/31/08 6:50 PM |
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And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. (Rev 19:6)omnipotent G3841 pan-tok-rat'-ore From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling, that is, God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty, Omnipotent. Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; (1Ti 6:15) King G935 βασιλεύς bas-il-yooce' Probably from G939 (through the notion of a foundation of power); a sovereign (abstractly, relatively or figuratively): - king. |
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5/25/08 4:02 PM |
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The kingdom of heaven is like unto leavenThis figure of speech is a simile. The kingdom of heaven is likened unto or is similar to leaven. Casob wrote, “The leaven is described as false doctrine and corrupt religion.” “The church age harbors false religion and false relionists and the leaven is their false teachings.” You are saying that the kingdom of heaven is likened unto or is similar to the leaven of false religion, false religionists and false teachings. How can this be true! |
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5/25/08 2:38 PM |
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The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven. The word "leaven" is every where else used in a bad sense; and either designs immorality, as malice and wickedness, or false doctrine, such as that of the Pharisees and Sadducees: but here it seems to be taken in a good sense, and the Gospel to be compared unto it; nor for its disagreeable qualities, but on account of its small quantity; it is a little leaven that leavens the whole lump, and may express, as the grain of mustard seed does, the small beginnings of the Gospel… JG Mat 13:33 The scope of the parable of the seed sown, is to show that the beginnings of the gospel would be small, but its latter end would greatly increase; in this way the work of grace in the heart, the kingdom of God within us, would be carried on. In the soul where grace truly is, it will grow really; though perhaps at first not to be discerned, it will at last come to great strength and usefulness. The preaching of the gospel works like leaven in the hearts of those who receive it. The leaven works certainly, so does the word, yet gradually. It works silently, and without being seen…yet strongly; without noise, for so is the way of the Spirit, but without fail… MH |
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5/8/08 4:18 PM |
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Neil wrote: But neither do I pedestal the KJV, ever since I read "Translators to the Reader," which I comment to you. And I use the KJV frequently, which is why I'm aware that the KJV alludes to variant manuscript readings. I have seen no KJV'er explain this away yet; perhaps they can't handle it. The Translators to the Reader Now to the latter we answer, that we do not deny, nay, we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English set forth by men of our profession (for we have seen none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God: as the King’s speech which he uttered in parliament, being translated into French, Dutch, Italian, and Latin, is still the King’s speech, though it be not interpreted by every translator with the like grace."When the KJV Translators referred to “the very meanest translation of the Bible in English,” they were not referring to a translation that is wrong in meaning or corrupt in text; they were referring rather to one that is lowly in literary style." |
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5/8/08 12:46 PM |
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Jhawk44 wrote: Also explain to me how people of other languages are to be saved without the KJV, since it's only in English. And also explain how people could be saved before the KJV even existed. “… Also explain to me how people of other languages are to be saved without the KJV, since it's only in English.” The Received Text (Textus Receptus) underlies the King James Bible. The Trinitarian bible society publish Received Text versions in many languages: Arabic, French, German, Hebrew, Portuguese, Russsian, Spanish, Albanian, Afrikkansm, Dutch, Greek etc. “And also explain how people could be saved before the KJV even existed.” The Gallic Bible (Southern France) (AD177) The Gothic Bible (AD 330-350) The Old Syriac Bible (AD 400) The Armenian Bible (AD 400) There are 1244 copies of this version still in existence. The Palestinian Syriac (AD 450) The French Bible of Oliveton (AD 1535) The Czech Bible (AD 1602) The Italian Bible of Diodati (AD 1606) The Greek Orthodox Bible All the above mentioned Bibles and the vast majority (about 99%) of the 5200 extant New Testament MSS are in agreement with the text now known as Textus Receptus; the Text which underlies the Authorised King James Bible. |
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