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Survey6/9/08 9:31 PM
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Michael Hranek wrote:
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So apparently in your system of theology you cannot possibly preach good news to every creature when in fact that is what God commands. Oh!!!! That is because your gospel(?) isn't good news to all the world is it.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
(Mar 16:15)

God commands the gospel to be preached to every creature but to say that it is good news to all without exception is false. It is not good news to all, some scoff, some mock, some deny and others blaspheme it.


Survey6/9/08 7:54 PM
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Why do you and others dishonour Christ by stating that He died and made atonement for every person even for those who are in hell? Did Christ fail to save those in hell for whom he shed His blood?

Survey6/9/08 7:20 PM
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Michael Hranek wrote:
So are you saying the gospel is limited and only good news for those who believe (btw those who believe are the elect whom God has foreknown before the foundation of the world) and AND CANNOT BE GOOD NEWS FOR the non-elect BECAUSE God has determined that they should be born and live so that He could punish and torment them forever for their sins in hell and EVEN IF they came to Him confessing their sins and begging His mercy and to be saved from their sins He would not hear them and never give them any grace to do so because He wants them to burn forever in hell?
I DID NOT SAY THIS, THE WORD OF GOD says it. I quoted you Scripture don’t you believe it?

By the way where does it say in the Word of God that the non-elect will come to Him confessing their sins and begging His mercy to be saved from their sins? Do you know who the elect and non-elect are?


Survey6/9/08 6:40 PM
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Michael Hranek wrote:
Let me ask you a question, "Is there a single person who has ever lived or ever will who came to Jesus Christ to be saved from their sins that Jesus didn't save?"
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
(Joh 6:37)

… I lay down my life for the sheep.
(Joh 10:15)

...for he shall save his people from their sins.
(Mat 1:21)

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
(Isa 53:11)

All the sinners (His people, sheep, friends, church, the many) that the Father gave Christ will come to Him and they are the ones for whom Christ died and made propitiation for and to whom Christ’s righteousness is imputed.


Survey6/8/08 9:08 PM
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Michael Hranek wrote:
Since there is a "version" of Calvinism that claims God only loves the elect and hates everyone else, a version of "John Calvinism" that persecutes and has even used (abused) the power of the state to put people to death I have to consider if this "the love of many will grow cold" has any application to such "Calvinists" who act like they know all the mysteries of God and hate everybody but those who dot the i's and cross the t's of their version of 5 point Calvinism?
Instead of your hateful condemnations why don’t you prove from the Scriptures that Christ made propitiation for every man. No Calvinist that I know of has ever stated that they know all the mysteries of God but have only stated what God’s own revealed Word says and by claiming that Calvinists hate everybody who doesn’t believe in 5 point Calvinism you are bearing false witness. By your attitude I would say you hate 5 point Calvinists by implying that all 5 pointers would persecute and kill anyone who disagrees with them, which is also bearing false witness.

Survey6/8/08 6:06 PM
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Propitiation : Christ is the propitiation to God for sin; which must be understood of his making satisfaction to divine justice, for the sins of his people; these were imputed to him, and being found on him, the law and justice of God made demands on him for them; which he answered to satisfaction, by his obedience and sacrifice; and which, as it could not be done by any other, nor in any other way, is expressed by "reconciliation", and "atonement": whence God may be said to be pacified, or made propitious.

Christ made propitiation only for His people because if Christ died for those who end up in hell, he is not a faithful high priest. He failed to mediate for some of whom he died (if the Arminian is right). And if Christ died for those in hell, He did not make propitiation! According to the Arminian, Christ failed to propitiate because even though he died for them, many will end up in hell.
Arminians do not believe Christ made "propitiation for the sins of His people". They believe Christ shed his blood for those in hell but could not save them.


Survey6/7/08 12:21 AM
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Michael Hranek wrote:
Romans 3
...whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood...
Propitiation : Christ is the propitiation to God for sin; which must be understood of his making satisfaction to divine justice, for the sins of his people; these were imputed to him, and being found on him, the law and justice of God made demands on him for them; which he answered to satisfaction, by his obedience and sacrifice; and which, as it could not be done by any other, nor in any other way, is expressed by "reconciliation", and "atonement": whence God may be said to be pacified, or made propitious

Christ made propitiation only for His people because if Christ died for those who end up in hell, he is not a faithful high priest. He failed to mediate for some of whom he died (if the Arminian is right). And if Christ died for those in hell, He did not make propitiation! According to the Arminian, Christ failed to propitiate because even though he died for them, many will end up in hell.
Arminians do not believe Christ made "propitiation for the sins of His people". They believe Christ shed his blood for those in hell but could not save them.


Survey6/6/08 11:30 PM
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Michael Hranek wrote:
Ooooooppps this is something your beloved Roman Catholics don't believe either. Guess my Baptist Doctrine doesn't fit all that will with them, imagine that.
Proclamation Ministries is a Catholic Charismatic Community called to help fulfill the Church’s mission by proclaiming the Word of God…

EVANGELIZATION
…How can we ever comprehend the Love of God? How do we come to grips with the idea that the God-Man would take the punishment that we deserve? … The Gospel is that Jesus took upon Himself the sins of the world and shed His Blood and died….
This is the Word that we must spread. In the Book of Romans, St. Paul says, under the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that salvation comes from hearing and hearing comes from preaching. He also adds, they cannot hear if no one is sent to preach. This is what we must communicate to those around us. Salvation is only through the cross; only through the death of Jesus, the Lamb of God! … The Lord Jesus became the innocent Victim taking upon Himself the sins of the world ( Heb 7:27).

This is the Good News of Christianity, that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us ( Rom 5:8-9).

Jesus commanded us to make disciples of all nations.


Survey6/6/08 8:15 PM
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CHAPTER V.
On the necessity, in adults, of preparation for Justification, and whence it proceeds.

The Synod furthermore declares, that in adults, the beginning of the said Justification is to be derived from the prevenient [Page 33] grace of God, through Jesus Christ, that is to say, from His vocation, whereby, without any merits existing on their parts, they are called; that so they, who by sins were alienated from God, may be disposed through His quickening and assisting grace, to convert themselves to their own justification, by freely assenting to and co-operating with that said grace: in such sort that, while God touches the heart of man by the illumination of the Holy Ghost, neither is man himself utterly without doing anything while he receives that inspiration, forasmuch as he is also able to reject it; yet is he not able, by his own free will, without the grace of God, to move himself unto justice in His sight. Whence, when it is said in the sacred writings: Turn ye to me, and I will turn to you, we are admonished of our liberty; and when we answer; Convert us, O Lord, to thee, and we shall be converted, we confess that we are prevented by the grace of God.


Survey6/6/08 7:36 PM
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The Council of Trent
The Sixth Session

CANON V.- If anyone shall affirm, that since the fall of Adam, man’s freewill is lost and extinguished; or, that it is a thing titular, yea a name, without a thing, and a fiction introduced by Satan into the Church; let such an one be accursed"!

CANON XV.-If any one saith, that a man, who is born again and justified, is bound of faith to believe that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; let him be anathema.

CANON XVII.-If any one saith, that the grace of Justification is only attained to by those who are predestined unto life; but that all others who are called, are called indeed, but receive not grace, as being, by the divine power, predestined unto evil; let him be anathema.

The Synod furthermore declares, that in adults, the beginning of the said Justification is to be derived from the prevenient [Page 33] grace of God, through Jesus Christ, that is to say, from His vocation, whereby, without any merits existing on their parts, they are called; that so they, who by sins were alienated from God, may be disposed through His quickening and assisting grace, to convert themselves to their own justification, by freely assenting to and co-operating with that said grace...

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Survey6/4/08 9:27 PM
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For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
(1Co 2:2)

… he had a spiritual and experimental knowledge of Christ himself…and this qualified him to make him known to others; and which knowledge he was very willing and ready to communicate by preaching the Gospel, which is the means of making known Christ as God's salvation to the souls of men…he made known the things respecting the person of Christ, as that he was God, the Son of God, and truly man. God and man in one person; the things respecting his office, as that he was the Messiah, the mediator, prophet, priest, and King, the head, husband, Saviour, and Redeemer of his people; and the things respecting his work as such, and the blessings of grace procured by him; as that justification is by his righteousness, pardon by his blood, peace, reconciliation, and atonement by his sacrifice, and salvation alone and entirely by him. His determination was to preach none but Christ; not himself, nor man; nor the power and purity of human nature, the free will and works of the creature, but to exclude all and everything from being partners with Christ in the business of salvation…


Survey6/4/08 4:09 PM
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Calvin on John 1:13

The will of the flesh and the will of man appear to me to mean the same thing ...the Evangelist repeats the same thing in a variety of words, in order to explain it more fully, and impress it more deeply on the minds of men. Though he refers directly to the Jews, who gloried in the flesh, yet from this passage a general doctrine may be obtained: that our being reckoned the sons of God does not belong to our nature, and does not proceed from us, but because God begat us willingly, (James 1:18,) that is, from undeserved love. Hence it follows, first, that faith does not proceed from ourselves, but is the fruit of spiritual regeneration; for the Evangelist affirms that no man can believe, unless he be begotten of God; and therefore faith is a heavenly gift. It follows, secondly, that faith is not bare or cold knowledge, since no man can believe who has not been renewed by the Spirit of God.


Survey6/2/08 10:19 PM
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In his sermon on Genesis 3:15, Whitefield wrote, “That the Lord Jesus Christ was the second Adam, with whom the Father entered into covenant for fallen man; that they can now do nothing of or for themselves, and should therefore come to God beseeching him to give them faith, by which they shall be enabled to lay hold on the righteousness of Christ; and that faith they will then shew forth by their works, out of love and gratitude to the ever blessed Jesus, their most glorious redeemer, for what he has done for their souls. This is a consistent scriptural scheme; without holding this, we must run into one of those two bad extremes; I mean, Antinominanism on the one hand, or Arminianianism on the other: from both which may the good Lord deliver us!”

On March 15, 1740, he preached in a Baptist-meeting house in Charleston and wrote, “I was led to shew the utter inability of man to save himself...


Survey6/2/08 9:33 PM
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George Whitefield to John Wesley, "Man is nothing: he hath a free will to go to hell, but none to go to heaven, till God worketh in him to will and to do his good pleasure"(Dallimore, George Whitefield , 407).

Survey5/31/08 6:50 PM
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And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
(Rev 19:6)

omnipotent
G3841
pan-tok-rat'-ore
From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling, that is, God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty, Omnipotent.

Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
(1Ti 6:15)

King
G935
βασιλεύς
bas-il-yooce'
Probably from G939 (through the notion of a foundation of power); a sovereign (abstractly, relatively or figuratively): - king.


Survey5/25/08 4:02 PM
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The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven

This figure of speech is a simile. The kingdom of heaven is likened unto or is similar to leaven.

Casob wrote, “The leaven is described as false doctrine and corrupt religion.”
“The church age harbors false religion and false relionists and the leaven is their false teachings.”

You are saying that the kingdom of heaven is likened unto or is similar to the leaven of false religion, false religionists and false teachings.

How can this be true!


Survey5/25/08 2:38 PM
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The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven.

The word "leaven" is every where else used in a bad sense; and either designs immorality, as malice and wickedness, or false doctrine, such as that of the Pharisees and Sadducees: but here it seems to be taken in a good sense, and the Gospel to be compared unto it; nor for its disagreeable qualities, but on account of its small quantity; it is a little leaven that leavens the whole lump, and may express, as the grain of mustard seed does, the small beginnings of the Gospel…
JG

Mat 13:33

The scope of the parable of the seed sown, is to show that the beginnings of the gospel would be small, but its latter end would greatly increase; in this way the work of grace in the heart, the kingdom of God within us, would be carried on. In the soul where grace truly is, it will grow really; though perhaps at first not to be discerned, it will at last come to great strength and usefulness. The preaching of the gospel works like leaven in the hearts of those who receive it. The leaven works certainly, so does the word, yet gradually. It works silently, and without being seen…yet strongly; without noise, for so is the way of the Spirit, but without fail…
MH


News Item5/8/08 4:18 PM
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Neil wrote:
But neither do I pedestal the KJV, ever since I read "Translators to the Reader," which I comment to you. And I use the KJV frequently, which is why I'm aware that the KJV alludes to variant manuscript readings. I have seen no KJV'er explain this away yet; perhaps they can't handle it.
The Translators to the Reader
Now to the latter we answer, that we do not deny, nay, we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English set forth by men of our profession (for we have seen none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God: as the King’s speech which he uttered in parliament, being translated into French, Dutch, Italian, and Latin, is still the King’s speech, though it be not interpreted by every translator with the like grace.

"When the KJV Translators referred to “the very meanest translation of the Bible in English,” they were not referring to a translation that is wrong in meaning or corrupt in text; they were referring rather to one that is lowly in literary style."


News Item5/8/08 2:59 PM
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Jim Lincoln wrote:
Well, quote, this means you should like the New King James Version! It is based on the same text as the AV.
Oh really

http://www.trinitarianbiblesociety.org/site/articles/A110.pdf


News Item5/8/08 12:46 PM
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Jhawk44 wrote:
Also explain to me how people of other languages are to be saved without the KJV, since it's only in English. And also explain how people could be saved before the KJV even existed.
“… Also explain to me how people of other languages are to be saved without the KJV, since it's only in English.”

The Received Text (Textus Receptus) underlies the King James Bible.

The Trinitarian bible society publish Received Text versions in many languages: Arabic, French, German, Hebrew, Portuguese, Russsian, Spanish, Albanian, Afrikkansm, Dutch, Greek etc.

“And also explain how people could be saved before the KJV even existed.”

The Gallic Bible (Southern France) (AD177)
The Gothic Bible (AD 330-350)
The Old Syriac Bible (AD 400)
The Armenian Bible (AD 400) There are 1244 copies of this version still in existence.
The Palestinian Syriac (AD 450)
The French Bible of Oliveton (AD 1535)
The Czech Bible (AD 1602)
The Italian Bible of Diodati (AD 1606)
The Greek Orthodox Bible

All the above mentioned Bibles and the vast majority (about 99%) of the 5200 extant New Testament MSS are in agreement with the text now known as Textus Receptus; the Text which underlies the Authorised King James Bible.

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