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2/23/09 3:21 PM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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John UK wrote: If a person does not believe in Jesus, they will remain in darkness, but if they believe in Jesus, they will not remain in darkness. Cornelius was still in darkness, as is evident. If Cornelius was not saved or regenerated until after he was preached the gospel, what about Simeon and John the Baptist. How were they saved? When were they saved if they were saved? Were they regenerated? Were they indwelt with the Holy Spirit? |
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2/20/09 3:48 PM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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DJC49 wrote: And what of Paul's joining in on "keeping the Law" in Acts 21:24,26? Acts 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord. And they said to him, "You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law; but they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. What then? The assembly must certainly meet, for they will hear that you have come. Therefore do what we tell you: We have four men who have taken a vow. Take them and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads, and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but that you yourself also walk orderly and keep the law. But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality." Then Paul took the men, and the next day, having been purified with them, entered the temple to announce the expiration.. |
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2/20/09 2:19 PM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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John UK wrote: The apostle Paul had no such hypocrisy, and he is the perfect example of how God's Spirit can transform a man, making him holy by faith (justified) and holy by nature, because of the indwelling Spirit of God. 1 Tim 1:15 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief. I am chief! The verb is in the present indicative, just as are all the verbs in Romans 7 14-25 "But I AM carnal...O wretched man that I AM! Who will deliver me from this body of death? O wretched man that I AM!...I thank God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! 2 Cor 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, "My GRACE is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather BOAST in my INFIRMATIES, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. So you are boasting about Paul's spiritual walk, while God has sent a messenger or Satan to buffet him so there is no boasting. |
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2/20/09 12:55 PM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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John UK wrote: Quite agree. And I would also add this: Peter's self-confidence was manifest before he was baptised with the Spirit, so for one who had not yet received the Spirit, he showed remarkable bravery. Remarkable indeed Gal 2:11 Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, FEARING those who were of the circumcision. And the rest of the Jews also played the HYPOCRITE with HIM, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy. But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, "If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews? Why does man always try to impute some type of enabled righteousness into the nature of man? You guys are fixated on the works of man, even after he receives the Spirit. However, the Book is always focused on the works of the redeemer. |
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2/19/09 5:54 PM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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John UK wrote: I can't believe that, Roger. Besides, there are those who address the Lord in most reverent terms, yet disobey him. And there are those who address him as Jesus, who obey him implicitly. Of course there are those who address him as Jesus who are not even converted. And there are those who address him reverently who actually do obey him as Lord. I watched a documentary on the Amish of Pennsylvania last night. It was very instructive as to how they live in darkness with very strict rules like how you hold your trousers (pants) up using suspenders, or painting your buggy a certain shade of grey. Do it wrong and you get shunned, even excommunicated. It was nice to see interviews with two of the company who had got a hold of an English Bible, had read it, and believed it (as opposed to the Amish rules) and seemingly were soundly converted. Oh the joy and peace in the faces of these men, as they were set free from rules, regulations and legalism, to serve the living Jesus, their Lord and Saviour. Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. I meant that everyone in the 4 gospels who were eventually saved refered to Jesus as Lord or Master. The only ones that referred to him as Jesus, were the lost. |
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2/19/09 10:26 AM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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John UK wrote: DJC49, if you are saying that there is 'saving faith' and also a 'non-saving faith' then would the non-saving faith be a gift from God? I'm still pondering about the centurion. If he was exercising true saving faith in Christ and his ability, then what was it that made this so great, even greater than the faith of Jews, to whom Jesus was sent? These discussions about saving faith, whether man has the ability to have faith, whether it is a gift from God, or he has the faculty within himself to have faith does not consider what the object of that faith is.Man does have the ability to trust in things such as science, people, history and god. But man does not have the moral ability to place trust in the objective person and work of Christ. Man does have the capacity to trust in a god, and his own acts of piety and repentence, but that is not saving faith. The moral ability (and or will) of man to place trust in the person of Christ as his substitute, and upon the finished work on the cross, and trust in His promise to raise us from the grave is a gift from God. This moral ablility itself is a resurrection from death. "For as the Father raiseth up the dead and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom He will" |
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2/12/09 1:51 PM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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In regards to the usages of all, everyone, every man, we can use the following analogy.On Sunday morning I was teaching Sunday school before the worship service. Suppose I said, I have brought coffee and donuts for everyone. Then I said that I wanted every man to clean up after himself. And then I noticed that no one could eat the horseradish flavoured donuts. And then I said, whosover will could take the horseradish flavoured donuts home for their kids. We know this. I have not brought coffee and donuts for every single person living in the world. We know that I did not expect every man in the world to clean up after eating their donuts. People still had the ability to eat the horseradish flavoure donuts, but no one was willing, because they don't like horseradish. And we know that no one took the horseradish flavoured donuts home for their children. The epistles are addressed to believers. A specific group of people. Whenever these passages for "all, everyone, every man" are used in Scripture it is specific to a certain group of people. "To the Saints in Rome" etc. So when I tell my Sunday school class that Christ died for all of "us", it is in confidence that "all" who are in the class, are the elect. |
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2/12/09 11:50 AM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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DJC49 wrote: Now when exactly is a man given this ability to come? From what I understand you saying, man can NOT come; however, there arrives a point in time when he CAN come. When and how does this happen? And to WHOM does is happen? Whosoever? And if whosoever=all, then with Mike's logic that must mean that all come then?Luke 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God...21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened. Matt 3:5 Then went out to him Jersalem, and all of Judea, and all the region around about Jordan. And were baptized of him in the Jordan, confessing their sins. Now did all flesh see the salvation of God, even the american indians in 33 AD? Now did all the Saducees, Pharisees, Herod and the Romans come down to the Jordan to be baptized by John? Now if all means all, then all means all. |
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2/11/09 3:29 PM |
rogerant | | Saskatoon Canada | | | | | |
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John UK wrote: To differentiate between God and other spirits, I can call him the Great Spirit, as opposed to lesser spirits.God the Father = Spirit God the Son = Spirit/Spiritual Flesh God the Holy Ghost = Spirit When we are saved, we become one spirit with Christ, hence Paul's exhortation never to fornicate. I don't need a lesson in theology proper. But I trust the arguments and the capacity of those whom have gone before us that have debated these great truths. As for you...you appear to be starting from scratch yourself penning your own terminology and names for God."I can call him the Great Spirit?" Is that the name that He has given us to describe Him? I believe He uses the name "Holy Spirit" which is not greater than the lesser spirits. It is totally unlike any other spririt. Totally uncommon. "God the Son=Spirit/Spiritural Flesh?" Making things up as we go along again here? When we ignore the history of others, we will repeat the same errors that they have made. The Church's abandonment of the confessional creeds brings us to this type of anarchy induced confusion. |
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