Jim Lincoln wrote:
I could grip about relevance -- but I won't.

So the fault in this admin is the "independents"

John UK wrote:
#1 Cease Sunday Services and midweek services forthwith, realising that God is not there, indeed has been absent for years.
#2 Cease all ministry and works.
#3 Open the church building for prayer 24hrs a day continually, and ask Jesus to manifest himself once again. And when he does:
#4 Resume services.

John UK wrote:
Ahhh, now you're getting it.

Alastair
You must remember that these yanks are more superior believers than us poor old Brits are.

Of course I might add that Michael (Endicott) and Mike (NY) (et al?), are both Professional Arminians. Now, as you may know this is a fictitious religion in itself. But that is exactly why they would run from fictional novels, - in case they believe them to be truth. []

Reading fiction won't taint your already sinful hide fellas. After all look at how much tabloid and political fiction you read. Now the fiction of heresy such as Popish dogma and it's cousin Arminian free will, well thats another thing all together.

Anyway you two Noo Yoikers....