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1/18/07 9:25 PM |
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Secundus,http://www.learnthebible.org/q_a_replacement_theology.htm Replacement Theology Q: Do you have anything on this subject? I don't know if you believe that the Jews have lost there promise or not but do you have any thing on your web site about this? A: Replacement theology is one name given to the idea that believers of this age replace the Jews of the Old Testament. In this theology, the Jews cease to be the people of God and are excluded from that position by the coming of Christianity. The Old Testament promises that were given to the Jews are now applied to the Christians. ***Normally, replacement theology is one component of the larger system of covenant theology. *** On the other hand, the foundational doctrine of Dispensationalism is belief in the continued distinction between Israel and the New Testament believers (commonly called the church).(cont'd) |
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1/18/07 9:55 AM |
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JD,That is where things get fuzzy. Abraham believed God's promise of Gen. 3:15. He believed God's promise that through his seed all the nations of the earth would be blessed. Those were God's promises concerning the coming Messiah, the Christ of God. Although he never heard the name of Jesus mentioned, he knew and believed that God would provide that sacrificial lamb, which was to be Jesus. We believed that God already provided that Lamb, Abraham believed that he would provide the Lamb. Eventhough John the Baptist preached Jesus and knew Jesus personally and believed that he was the Lamb of God, he even baptized him, yet he died before Pentecost. Does that mean he will not be raptured with the rest of the church? Perhaps it is in my level of understanding. Then again, I am not dogmatic on this since it is a little fuzzy. |
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1/18/07 8:56 AM |
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JD,So why the typology in the OT? What did it signify? Didn't they picture the future coming of the Messiah? Wasn't the blood sacrifices and offerings a picture of the sacrificial Lamb? If salvation in the OT was by faith in the coming of the Messiah and in the NT was faith in the Messiah that laready came, then there is only one means of eternal life. If the NT saints were the only one IN CHRIST, then that leaves the conclusion that there were two means of salvation. That is where we would disagree. |
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1/16/07 8:29 AM |
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Duh:"So you're trying to manufacture a revival?" Who says we are manufacturing a revival. It is where the gospel is preached by men of God filled with the Holy Spirit and the Spirit works in the hearts of church members, convicting them of sin, refreshing their spirits and purifying their hearts unto godly living. It is also a time where the unsaved here the gospel of the marvelous grace of God in bringing salvation to the lost world in Christ Jesus. I forgot, Calvinists do not practice such things, well maybe for George Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, Martyn Lloyd Jones and Spurgeon. |
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1/15/07 5:52 PM |
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JD,Just think, some people call a literal interpretation of scripture, fairytales. It is rather senseless and pointless posting all references to the Day of the Lord in the prophetical writings or the wrath of God/Lamb in the book of Revelation if they are not willing to accept the authority of the word of God. Post Tribbers do not accept that the wrath of God mentioned in Revelation is really the wrath of God poured out on those who dwell on the earth and who have rejected the Messiah. The time of Jabob's trouble is just that, a time of trouble for Israel who rejected Christ. Daniel 9:27 gives the scope of the tribulation period as being for the city and people of Daniel, ie, Jerusalem and the Jews. Since the church was not founded, it was not in view of this prophecy. They also want to claim that it is a time of testing for the church to prove their faithfulness, however scripture tells us that we are perfect and complete in Christ. There is no purging of sins required to enter the kingdom of Heaven, Christ purged our sins with his own blood. |
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1/14/07 10:23 AM |
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"Pretrib heresy causes people to be weak, selfish, lazy and cowardly."I don't see many posttribbers out there evangelizing the lost. I don't see the fruits of a holy sanctified life among the posttribbers either. You think you have all the time in the world to live right or preach the gospel to the lost. If we lived our lives knowing that he could come at any moment, we would see a revival of holiness as the world has never seen before. Like most Christians who fly by the seat of their pants, they want to wait until the last minute to make things right thinking they have all the time in the world. (2 Cor. 6:2) "(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)" |
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1/14/07 9:49 AM |
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Secundus,Do you believe that Christ is coming back for his church? Do you believe that the church will be raised up and given incorruptable bodies? Do you believe that the church has been purchased with the blood of Christ and is not subject to the wrath of God? Do you believe that the church will have an eternal home in heaven? Do you believe that the church is comprised of the redeemed Jews as well as the redeemed gentiles? If you answer yes to all of the above, then we are both heretics because that is what we believe. Differing on the time frame for the translation and the catching up of the bride of Christ does not a heretic make. What makes a heretic is the denial of all of theabove. |
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1/14/07 9:37 AM |
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Secundus,Covenant theology only came out 2 centuries prior to dispensational theology. Until the reformation, eschatology was not at the forefront of importance in the church. The reformation came as a result of salvation by faith in contrast to the Romish church, salvation by works. The just shall live by faith. Just as the dispensationalist can not find any sermons from preachers in the past to support their claim prior to the 1800's, the reformed folks don't have any either prior to the reformation to support their position as well. So we are at square 1. |
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