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1/9/07 3:04 PM |
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WOW,If you can't figure it out, there ther is no hope for you. Put away your Calvinist's presuppositions. If you reject the calling of the Holy Spirit of God to repent and believe the gospel, you will yet die in your sins. God will not repent for you. How do you know when you get the faith. How do you know when you have enough faith to believe the gospel? When did you exercize this faith? How do you know when you have received the gift repentence in order to repent? |
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1/9/07 2:17 PM |
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No one can produce faith and repentence, just as no one can produce the flesh and bones that cover our body.Just as stealing is an act of the will, so is not stealing. We are all born with a will and are free moral agents to use that will, either for good or for bad. You believe that man has no ability to make any conscious choice on anything. This is called total inability, we believe in total depravity. As long as you are able to breath, you have the God given ability to make a conscious choice. Granted, we are tainted with the sin nature. And for that reason the natural man does not arbitrarily seek after God, but when confronted with the gospel and the nature of the gospel, God calls all those who are of a willing and contrite heart to come to Christ. God called all men, everywhere to repent and believe the gospel. It is his divine will for all men to turn from their wickedness and come to the knowledge of the truth. He set the criteria by which that is to be done. There is no other way. You want to through out names like Pelagian or Arminian as scare tactics and intimidation, no one should be intimidated by your scare tactics but stand on the truth which is not founded on anybody other than in Christ. |
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1/8/07 4:49 PM |
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MBL,Makes you wonder why they don't bring people to the Savior. They rationalize away calling on the name of the Lord for salvation as if it not pertainent to salvation. MBL, how many Calvinists would you estimate here that are not truly saved? They have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof. They claim that you have to wait for God to give you the gifts of repentence anf faith after they have been regenerated in order for them to be able to believe. I have asked Arthur if he had ever received this gift. I am still waiting for the answer. I have asked the Calvinist if it possible for one to enter the kingdom of heaven without ever believing the gospel. I just get the runaround. I woke up early this morning wishing for a civil, informative discussion on the law. Oh well. |
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1/8/07 11:01 AM |
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Postol Pete,Where we aslo differ is the sequence and nature of regeneration. We hold that regeneration and justification are two totally separate acts of God but take place simultaneously. We hold that a sinner is convicted by the Holy Spirit of his sin nature and his miserable estate. The Holy Spirit convinces him of his need of salvation through the shed blood of Jesus Christ. This is divine illumination and not regeneration. Regeneration is that act of God by which the governing disposition of the soul is made holy, and by which, through the truth as a means, the first holy exercise of this disposition is secured. "Regeneration, or the new birth, is the divine side of that change of heart or which we call conversion if viewed from the human side. It is God’s turning the soul to himself, conversion being the soul’s turning itself to God; God’s turning it is both the accompaniment and cause. It will be observed from the above definition, that there are two aspects of regeneration, in the first of which the soul is passive, in the second of which the soul is active. God changes the governing disposition, in this change the soul is simply acted upon..." (cont'd) |
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1/8/07 10:31 AM |
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Pistol Pete: If God regenerates then he will inevitably convert - He cannot fail in His purposes. But you have already covered some of this ground with "One of God's simple ones".Is a sovereign God obligated to save anyone? If you go to the airport and want to go to Paris but didn't have the money. If a man came to you and handed you a ticket already paid for. He has purchased and secured the ticket for you. All you have to do is receive it. You don't have to clean the stalls to receive it, you don't have to give him a dime for it. In fact, he will even hand it to the ticket agent for you. If you reject his ticket, are you going to Paris? |
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1/8/07 9:33 AM |
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Pete,Universalism teaches that everybody is saved regardless if they believe on Jesus Christ or not. They do not believe in a literal Hell because there is no one going there. The bible teaches that except ye repent, ye will all likewise perish. We also teach that "For by grace are ye saved through faith, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast." Calvinist, according to your logic, teach that if you are elect, you are saved. The exercise of faith unto salvation and believing the gospel message is not required. According to your logic, which category are you in? |
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