DJC49 wrote:
Oh you earth-bound man! God was EXTREMELY serious!
Now you bring up the Davidic Covenant.
Which ... ALSO was totally fulfilled in a more glorious and everlasting way in Jesus Christ who now reigns on the Davidic throne in heaven until all His enemies are made His footstool. "For DAVID is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand," (Acts 2:34 KJV)
Within the Davidic Covenant, it is mentioned that the throne of David was EVERLASTING: "thy throne shall be established for ever" (2Sa 7:16 KJV). Whoever was to sit on this throne would reign FOREVER ... and for no mere 1000 skimpy years on some earthly throne in a yet Fallen World in Jerusalem even though the conditions were temporarily "idyllic."
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (RO 14:17)

How many would be saved if they only knew how?

There is a Muslim that goes to the mosque across my church. He is close to being saved. I pray that tonight will be his day of salvation.

There is nothing so wonderful than being able to look in the eye of someone and with all the authority from the Bible, tell them that Jesus loves them.

So who knows, maybe "I AM" a Calvinist.

Icon O'Clast wrote:
Now you know why I said reasoning with these wombats is a waste of time. "Cure", I am sure that if you were a toffee, you would eat yourself.

Discernig Believer wrote:
I wouldn't be so flippant if I were you. Your remarks border on blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.

Discernig Believer wrote:
"Any number of people"??? Can you be more specific? How many ways are there to come to God?

Discernig Believer wrote:
Yamil, have you ever heard that when God works in their hearts that they do come willingly.

Discernig Believer wrote:
I'll ask you the same question as I asked JD. How do you get to the airport? Who provides the means of transportation to get there?

Discernig Believer wrote:
Arminians believe that they have all the means in and of themselves to muster enough faith to be able to save themselves. That is why you don't hear them give glory to God for their salvation.

I guess it all depends on what one really wants to hear.

Discernig Believer wrote:
If God works in their heart, they will want to go. Are you stronger than God? God does not fail in what He has decreed. He does not fail in his sovereign purpose. What He sets out to do, He completes it with or without your help.

That does not even come close to the definition of grace. Maybe tyrrany.

Who has ever heard of someone forcing another to accept a gift. Is that what you do to your wife?: "Honey, you are going to take this spatula I got you for your birthday, and you know what? You are going to love it too."

Dr. Phil wrote:
This is one of your best yet Yamil. I see a lot of "funneling" in your theology, but rarely if ever any scripture. You obviously must think that ad homenim argumentation and scripture are one and the same, because this comprises the sum total of your apologetics.

Go ahead. I dare you. I double dare you. I triple dare you.

I hope that is serious enough for you.

But since you have no rebuttal, I guess that's the best you can do. At least it serves the difference in approach that we have towards the Scripture.

In either case, James was not stating that Amos 9:11-12 was literally being fulfilled at that time. Otherwise he would state something like "that it might be fulfilled" as other fullfillments in the O.T. are introduced.

James used the passage to make the point that God would visit the Gentiles. In fact, that's the subject of Acts 15. They were not debating over a temple, silly, but over God visiting the Gentiles. Amos 9:11-12 clearly states that it was God's intent to include the Gentiles into the covenant relationship of the church.

It all comes down to allowing God to mean what he states and state what he means. DJC49 needs to learn to have a better hermeneutic than "whatever agrees with my theology."

Instead of funneling the scriptures to one's theology, God requires us to funnel our theology through the Scriptures. This requires nothing less than a literal aproach to Scripture. God will tell us when something is being spiritualized; we do not have to try to help him out.

Genesis 6:18 can easily be speaking of the covenants in dispensational theology.

Covenant theology started with Zwingli trying to support his modified view of baptismal regeneration which they call paedobaptism against the anabaptists. He had to reconstruct the whole Bible just to prove something that was not explicitely stated.

That's why even a basic explanation of Covenant Theology given by the best theogian would quickly reveal a series of wishful thinking.