R. Jane wrote:
In this dispensation of grace, God is not in the business of judging the nations and the wicked,yet.

Proverbs.
3:33 The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just"
10:3 The LORD will not suffer the soul of the righteous to famish: but he casteth away the substance of the wicked."
10:27 The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened"
12:2 A good man obtaineth favour of the LORD: but a man of wicked devices will"
15:9 The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness."
15:26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words."
15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous."

AND
16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

AND

Ah now this will be seen as being not politically correct therefore will be fought against by many parents and secular groups, not to mention other religions such as muslim.

Whilst God is not supporting the C of E nor the C of S, then these efforts will not be blessed in the UK of Sodom and Gomorah.

However the Elect will still be saved according to God's purpose.

John UK wrote:
Okay, well if that is true, please explain the texts I posted up concerning 'passing through' and I shall be content.

John UK wrote:
With regard to omnipresence

"In him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him."

- Colossians 2:9, 10

All the ATTRIBUTES OF CHRIST, as God and man, are at our disposal. All the fulness of the Godhead, whatever that marvellous term may comprehend, is ours to make us complete. He cannot endow us with the attributes of Deity; but he has done all that can be done, for he has made even his divine power and Godhead subservient to our salvation. HIS omnipotence, omniscience, OMNIPRESENCE, immutability and infallibility, are all combined for our defence. Arise, believer, and behold the Lord Jesus yoking the whole of his divine Godhead to the chariot of salvation! How vast his grace, how firm his faithfulness, how unswerving his immutability, how infinite his power, how limitless his knowledge!" C.H.Spurgeon (Morning and Evening)

John UK wrote:
With regard to omnipresence
For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: .......of Egypt.
Exodus 12:12-13 KJV
Just passing through? Oh.

Face it John God and His Son and the Holy Spirit are OMNIPRESENT.
Thats everywhere.

If you think God cannot be in more than one place at a time, then are you suggesting this and verses in Scripture like it are UNTRUE???
Jer 23:23 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?
24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD."

"freethinkers" - They are like the papists and the arminians who think they are completely free to think and choose!

Frank Dombrosky wrote:
I have recently found a very interesting and informative website on the King James Bible and manuscripts. It was created by a man who used the NASB and NIV for 20 years. He and his wife considered "King James Bible Onlyists" a bunch of "wackos". Then they decided to research the facts in a fair manner. Their conclusion is now completely different. You can find this website at www.1611kingjamesbible.com.

I was "with" the NIV for about ten years then I attended Theological college and studied Greek. That is when I decided to look for a *TRUE* translation of Scripture. I checked out the RSV, NASB and NKJV, but finally by grace I settled with the KJV, thanks be to God. I also looked at those who wrote and critiqued the various modern versions and realised they made very good sense about their failings.

Mike wrote:
That is until: "He submitted to unjust authorities as Romans 13[2] tells us we should do today." Verses 3 and 4
describe for us those authorities, and why we submit to them. Unjust these aren't.

Does this not teach from the position of it being much more difficult, even dangerous, to live the true Christian life under a secular - worldly - cultish government.....

BUT We trust in God alone!

"The gunman himself was shot four times and was reported last night to be unconscious and on a ventilator in a nearby hospital. The female officer said to have shot him is also in hospital."

Many people in the military who serve alongside muslims are now going to be very cautious, to say the least, about their safety.

The recent situation where five British soldiers were murdered by an Afghan policeman, they were helping to train, must heighten fears of radicalised "sleeper" extremists anywhere in the world, where their are muslim colleagues serving alongside them.

DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) wrote:
or they were asking St. Therese to intercede for them before Jesus.

or indirectly to God.

Idolatry can only happen when a person worships someone or something other than the One True God as a god.

This certainly is not "Christ-centered" if it is *INDIRECT* to a dead person elevated to some ficticious status by RC (human) dogma.

Whether you can perceive it or not Bert, these idolatrous practices are to graven images and satanic.

It is a delusion that there can be an excuse to use quote, "ANY LIKENESS OF ANYTHING" other than God for prayer, veneration, healing or any other way which you choose to replace God and His Son.

DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
How can a Saint be a graven image for you? As for the others, to me a graven image is anything that you worship as a false god. Since Catholics do not worship any Saints, images or relics, they cannot be graven images.

Now I'm sure you will come back and say; "But we don't WORSHIP them."
You may add; "We venerate them."

The problem I have with this is "terms" or "words" you may apply eg dulia, do not excuse the kind of idolatry we observe in RC churches of saints, bones, icons etc.

Take for instance the recent St. Therese journey through England. The people who came up to the casket were touching, mouthing prayers, crossing themselves, kissing etc. These people were parading there idolatry for all to see. Lourdes and other places of RC pilgrimage are the same, with the afflictions they take there for healing.

This is a bit queer!

God's way is.....

So What!!!

Whatever the reprobates do with their "religious" lives is irrelevant to God, His Son and His True Believers.

From God's perspective the actual size of the "Remnant" were it to be revealed, would upset a great deal of churches, nations and religious organisations.

Alastair Roberts wrote:
Such survey questions are quite ridiculous. One does not have to believe that Roman Catholics worship a 'different Jesus' simply because one has strong differences with many of their practices in worship.....

....I also have huge problems with many conservative evangelical approaches to worship from Scripture, but I firmly believe that we worship the same Jesus.

Obviously "knowing" God and Jesus is not given to every religious organisation on earth. And if you don't have the TRUE Faith which God alone provides then you don't "know" God or His Son.

DisplacedMaritimer (Bert) wrote:
Mr. Toon is either totally off base or is focusing on a few Catholics who have gone too far.

One of us has the Holy Spirit and true faith.
The other has human intellect conviction.

We both know where we stand and only God can change that.

DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
Isaiah 7:14, Matt 7:14, Luke 1:26

"These distinctions became firmly embedded in the theology of the mediaeval Western Church. However, the careful distinctions made by the theologians were not always reflected in the practice of the faithful. Popular devotion, in various ways, took on the nature of a cult, paying scant attention to official theology. Instead of a particular saint being regarded as a witness to the gospel and a model of holiness for others to follow, he or she was seen as a ‘supernatural friend’, who helped to overcome the many problems and difficulties of life. Far from veneration being restrained and controlled, the impulse was to worship the saint. Images and relics of saints were given divine status, and pilgrimages to shrines multiplied and became a feature of popular mediaeval religion." (Peter Toon)

DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
Matt 18:19, John 20:23
Matt 26:26-28Isaiah 7:14, Matt 7:14, Luke 1:26The Rosary was given to us in 1214 - long after the Bible was written.1 Cor 3:11-15, Luke 12:58-592 Maccabees 12:42-46These items have been used from very early times.Such as? What has the Catholic Church added?

Unless the Lord gives you the Holy Spirit, grace and faith soon you are a reprobate bound for hell! The above verses say NOTHING of the fiction and fallacy which you and the papal antichrist attach to them.

The Roman Church has contravened God's Holy Writ and added men's traditions to Scripture and raised this abomination above the Word of God.
Luke 16:15 "And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God."

DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
Sins are not forgiven through the Rosary or Mary.

Common sense tells the Protestant that NONE of this is Biblical or relevant to Christian worship, doctrine or religion.

These are evil, satanic, ritualistic and futile practices. The ONLY explanation for their use would be that your organisation cannot read Scripture - OR adds to it.

You are warned thus by GOD....