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When do you think Satan Fell? Created: 12/19/2003 | Last Vote: 4 years ago | Comment: 16 years ago

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11/20/08 9:10 AM pew view    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments FYI wrote: The people who post here mostly don't believe Satan's name is Lucifer or that the Luciferian secret cults have anything to do with worshipping Satan. They also don't believe the NWO exists. If their pastors told them to stick their hand in a blender, they would. I think it is more likely that the conspiracy theorists who would so blindly follow their pastors, in this fashion. As for the fiction of NWO - Worry instead about the work of Satan and his forces. NOT about flesh and blood. Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out" John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged." Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:" 11/20/08 7:39 AM FYI    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments St Jeremiah wrote: Then explain how the king of Tyre could be; "...in Eden, the garden of God" Or created as; "Every precious stone was your covering..the workmanship of your tambourines and flutes was ""in"" you." "You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you....on the holy mountain of God..." "You walked in the midst of the stones of fire." A human king that is a fallen son of Adam could not be the same creature described by Ezekiel under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The people who post here mostly don't believe Satan's name is Lucifer or that the Luciferian secret cults have anything to do with worshipping Satan. They also don't believe the NWO exists. If their pastors told them to stick their hand in a blender, they would. 11/19/08 4:26 PM pew view    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments St Jeremiah wrote: Then explain how the king of Tyre could be; "...in Eden, the garden of God" Even "I" and you Jerry were in the Garden of Eden with the then human race - all two of them. Granny and Grampa. Ezek 28 is about God's judgement upon the prince of Tyre. - (V11) A lamentation upon his great glory corrupted by sin - (V24) The restoration of Israel. And thats the facts fellas. 11/19/08 4:01 PM St Jeremiah  | Salt Lake City, UT    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments pew view wrote: Ezekiel 28:13/17 is about the King of Tyre - Not about Satan. Then explain how the king of Tyre could be; "...in Eden, the garden of God" Or created as; "Every precious stone was your covering..the workmanship of your tambourines and flutes was ""in"" you." "You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you....on the holy mountain of God..." "You walked in the midst of the stones of fire." A human king that is a fallen son of Adam could not be the same creature described by Ezekiel under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. 11/18/08 10:43 AM pew view    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Ezekiel 28:13/17 is about the King of Tyre - Not about Satan. 11/18/08 3:49 AM David Clay  | Anchorage, AK    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments St Jeremiah wrote: You were in Eden, the garden of God; your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; Ezekiel 28:13 & 17 We do not know how long after creation that Satan's pride lead to his fall. However...sometime passed because Genesis 3:8 "the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day" this means it was His habit for some time. St Jeremiah, Very good answer. Our pastor at Cliffside Community Chapel has taken a lot of time in his sermons to explain this very thing. I have never heard anyone else teach this, but from all we can deduct from the Bible, what you have said is correct. What really supprises me is all the people who think satan was created before time began. God is very clear in His word, that everything was created in those six days, so satan could not have been created before creation. 11/11/08 4:55 PM St Jeremiah  | Salt Lake City, UT    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments You were in Eden, the garden of God; your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; Ezekiel 28:13 & 17 We do not know how long after creation that Satan's pride lead to his fall. However...sometime passed because Genesis 3:8 "the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day" this means it was His habit for some time. 4/19/08 8:57 PM Egoist    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Probably when he got married. 4/19/08 8:35 PM Ron Judge  | Perth Western Australia    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Kent Hovind goes into this in depth in his video titled "The Garden of Eden". Its available at his site or on ebay. 1/18/08 6:46 AM Lisa  | Wales    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments We have only recently became aware of the 1 Enoch issue and most of my friends, who have a real discernment and are still on fire for the L-rd discussed this (we dont go to orthodox church and so there is as you can see a freedom about our sharing). Well, we felt that the Orthodox Jews wouldnt like it because it is so very messianic and too challenging. I wonder whether the L-rd wanted it to be found in end times...I believe it was oreserved in the dead sea scrolls. We also felt that it alerted us to the fact that not all the early church fathers were Kosher-I think Constantine, Origen and Ignatius are questionable. Who knows-we think its a cool book!!! Glad you do too. 1/17/08 9:50 AM kevin  | Georgetown DE    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Good post and good point Lisa. I have taught the book of Enoch and it is a fantastic book. What I don't understand, if the brother of Yahshua speaks about this book, why doesn't the Churches? Kevin 1/17/08 9:25 AM lisa  | wales    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments If you read the book of Jude he talks about thebook of 1 Enoch (which for complex reasons was relegated to the apocryphal writings), there is lots about the fall there...http://www.reluctant-messenger.com/enoch.htm Advised not to bring this up in bible study!(or with orthodox Jews-when you read it you will understand why!). 1/17/08 12:49 AM Weapon of Mass Instruction  | Dehvastating Truth    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments [Removed by Moderator Delta] 1/17/08 12:41 AM Wesley Rostoll  | Benoni, South Africa    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Absolutely, and what is also interesting is that Satan told them in the garden "Ye shall be as gods" (Gen. 3:5), the very same thing that caused him to fall himself we he became puffed up and said "I shall be like the most High" (Is. 14:14). God bless 1/16/08 7:36 AM kevin  | Georgetown DE    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments I agree with you Wes. But can you see the connection of what took place in the Garden with Eve? Kevin 1/16/08 6:18 AM Wesley Rostoll  | Benoni, South Africa    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments I think Ez. 28:13 is pretty clear Satan was in Eden before he fell. 5/16/07 11:35 PM Faithful Remnant    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments I think this is heresy number five from expositor: Christ was raised a spirit being. How so? 1 Cor. 15 doesn't say so. Christ was raised from the dead. He had flesh just like he had before. Read the accounts in the gospels. He was seen after his resurrection. He had hands still imprinted with wounds. Remember doubting Thomas? Also, there's no account that a body of flesh remained in the tomb after Christ's resurrection. That refutes another heresy. 5/14/07 3:07 AM Abigail  | Oregon    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of the law. (Deut. 29:29). The time of the fall of Satan is speculation, not revealed in the Word of God. There are many clear teachings of the Word that are ignored, but people love to try to unravel mysteries. Knowledge puffeth up but charity edifieth To be like Jesus Christ is the goal. The Bible is written in such a way that we can make it say anything we want it to say--but the true saints understand the way of truth and walk in it. We are to be filled with the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. That is the whole purpose of God's Word. To love the LORD our God with all of our heart, mind, soul,and strength--and love our neighbor as ourself is the whole of the law and the prophets. That is all that is required of the saints. If everyone did this, there would be no more wars, no more poverty, no more homeless people, no more famine--in fact, it would be heaven on earth. The true Saints abide by this rule to the best of their ability, aided by God's Spirit. Be ye therefore perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect (Matt.5:48). Take heed, we are going to be judged by Jesus' teachings.(John 12:48;I Tim 6:3; II John 1:9). 5/14/07 1:44 AM Yamil    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Apparently those that deny premillinialism do. Can you say itchy-twitchy dance? 5/13/07 6:37 PM Duh!    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments "1000 Temporal years is NOT eternity!!!" Who said it was? The Bible says that eternity with the new Heaven and Earth happens after the Millennium. The Bible doesn't say the Millennium is eternity, and nobody else said it was either. There's a lot of lamebrains posting here, but nodody is that lame as to think 1,000 years equals eternity. Can you say straw man?

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