"The old truth that Calvin preached, that Augustine preached, that Paul preached, is the truth that I must preach to-day, or else be false to my conscience and my God. I cannot shape the truth; I know of no such thing as paring off the rough edges of a doctrine. John Knox's gospel is my gospel. That which thundered through Scotland must thunder through England again."—C. H. Spurgeon

"One can observe the effort by some to deliberately wear down people who hold specific views by engaging them in petty squabbles. This is related to Argumentum ad nauseum insofar as it is an attempt at domination by sapping disputers of energy to continue. On the Internet these people are often called trolls but in fact there have been public announcements by governments of the intention to hire such people to undermine political opponents."

BTW, I was quoting the lines to that Issac Watts him from a Spurgeon sermon that I had read. Have a great week end brother.

Luke 14:23-24 KJV
[23] And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. [24] For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

'Twas the same love that
Spread the feast
That sweetly forced me in.
Else I had still refused to taste
And perish in my sin.
-Issac Watts

'Twad the same love that
Spread the feast
That sweetly forced me in?
Else I had still refused to taste
And perish in my sin.
-Issac Watts

Proverbs 21:4 KJV
[4] An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.

1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned.

Ephesians 1:4-6 KJV
[4] According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: [5] Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, [6] To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

John 6:63-65 KJV
[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. [64] But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. [65] And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Again regardless of what sources "Really" recommends, there are Jesuit heretics that have infiltrated the ranks of every Protestant denomination. In addition, these heretics are prolific publishers, but their works can not be considered as representative of actual reformed doctrine. I assure you the reformers do not hold to a Presumptive Regeneration. We leave such heresies to the "real" Jesuits.

Liza J.
If you want to know why reformed people make snide remarks, it is response to the lies written about us like that above. They make such comments as though they are experts in doctrines they have never studied in depth. At the same time they really don't know Baptist doctrine well enough to know the inconsistencies there.