You are right on when it comes to a "preaching church" being an "outreach church". This is a problem for me that I just don't understand. If a local church really believes what they say/preach, how can they stay to themselves and not share? I know of some churches that preach good, Biblical teaching and yet have no outreach. If my neighbor's house is on fire, shouldn't I yell to him to get out for your lifes' sake? And yet churches are preaching that there is a hell to come for unbelievers and judgment coming and never go out of there local congregation to warn these poor folk. It's a mystery I've struggled with for some years now. Do these people believe with only their heads and not their hearts??????????

I don't know where you're coming from. I don't know what to make of your "voice" here in this room. I'm amazed that people take verses of the Bible that are very clear as to what they mean, and for some reason, want to oppose them. I said earlier that I don't understand "God's election plan", but because it is so clearly taught in the Bible, I have to believe it. We don't allow women in the pulpit, for example, because this also is clearly taught in the Bible that women cannot have authority over men, and that women are to remain silent in the congregation, etc. Yet, many go against this very clear truth and go ahead anyway and let the women preach, etc. On and on the false teachings, etc. go. People today are not asking the Lord for "spiritual light" to guide and teach them the true meaning of many Biblical verses. They are, like yourself, coming to false conclusions thinking they are absolutely right when indeed they are wrong when Scripture is compared with Scripture. The Bible says "in THY light we see the light". That's what we all need. I love people too much to read so much error and wrong opinions being talked about in these rooms. It really bothers me because we all have a never dying soul for eternity. Even if the truth hurts , give me TRUTH!

I was not aware of that and stand to be corrected. Thanks much for letting me know. If we are believers, we want to be honest and truthful at all times! Thanks again!!!

I had hoped to get back to you sooner. Thanks for the encouragement re: God's "sovereignty" vs. "man's responsibility". Lurker, I don't understand why God chooses some and not the other. I've kinda been confused my whole life about this. I willnot deny though what the Scriptures say about election vs. freewill. By the way, the word election is in the Bible, the word freewill is not. When I read the feedback in this room re: the topic of election, I can't for the life of me understand why people outright deny this fact. In Acts we read, "and the Lord added daily to the church, SUCH as should be saved". Again "I am found of them who sought me not". This space is too small to quote all the texts that show clearly that election is a Biblical doctrine, freewill is not. Again, I say, I don't understand this doctrine at all, but it's so clear that a child can see it written in the Scriptures. I believe the Bible teaches God's sovereignty and man's responsiblity. Yet another verse that comes to mind, " and you hath He quickened who were DEAD in tresspasses and in sin". A spiritually dead man cannot choose the Lord in the true sense of the word. Again, Romans 6,7 and 8 will make it totally clear that it is God who has to do the saving, no freewill whatsoever.

Maybe it's the late hour and my mind is foggy, but are you agreeing with me regarding God's sovereignty or not? Thanks!

Donnie from New Jersey....USA

Donnie from NJ

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Donnie from N.J.