This is no surprise.

In a part of England I was 29 when I FIRST heard that Christ was God manifested in the flesh. I never heard it preached on the street and never had even a simple gospel tract thrust into my hand...

I came to hear the message after a knock on the door and the JW's invited me to their study where they offered their own 'bible' translation asking if I believed in the trinity (What was that?). Instead I returned home and the first words from my wife: 'I was tidying the drawers and found this old unopened Bible in the drawer'

An authorised version

I read through and came to I Timothy 3: 16 and there is where the blessed Spirit did work to convince and convict my heart.

If any came to Christ through another version then praise God. BUT...what is the purpose in attacking the authorised version?

Jim Lincoln can answer to God for many of his ridiculous posts, but careful examining of conscience will keep Christian brethren from raising vile attacks on a version so continually blessed of God...even in these days of apostacy, God still chooses to draw sinners through that old version.

"Let me be homo unius libri"

Well have a look at the site above.

I listened to Ralph Ovadal: 'Heart of the Matter' [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=102910212345]]]Here[/URL]

He has an interesting look at New Calvinism and the strange clamour over converted Rap artists, particularly this 'Muzak', where Pastor Ovadal makes the correct comment that it is the butchering of the English language.
[URL=http://endued.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/music-review-of-lecraecalvinist-rapper-getting-crunk-referencing-john-owen-john-piper-and-morewow/]]]Calvin Rapper[/URL]

I was a teenager in the Punk Rock era and wouldn't have expected an attempt at christianising that genre; rap came from the world rather than the Holy Bible...strange to see new Calvinists promoting it and loving the new version and Indie artists! So should the Bible be brought down to the rap level comprehension?

The sermon mentions a 7 year old boy in England without Christian parents wanting to read nothing but scripture, should he be given the calvinistic butcher's rap or the KJV and educated upwards? His parents took scripture information from the following church

[URL=http://www.reformed-baptist.co.uk/m.html]]]Reformed baptist[/URL]

As Jim seems to be the expert on the History of the Bible and England/Scotland...was Tyndale's prayer answered and how?

There was an earlier comment re: extreme charismatic Pentecostals and Mormons etc. using the KJV-seemingly to denigrate that version. Remember the watchtower Society abandoned the KJV and the Mormons supplement the KJV with their own satanic revelations. The Russellites (JW's) began when C T Russell used the KJV at a time when the KJV was THE Protestant Bible-so they had to eventually abandon it because of I Timothy 3: 16 etc.

To carry on the illusion that they remain mainstream Protestant many pentecostals hold to the KJV, even the extremists and TV evangelists

I don't know about the USA, but the ecumenical churches in the UK use a modern version (often the NIV), that must be 1000's of churches. Even with an easy to read modern version they remain blind to the Truth. To follow illogical logic, the ecumenists should really be using the KJV as they are the apostates blinded to God's revelation so must keep their adherents blinded by the old Elizabethan speak

Yet the most vocal Christ Glorifying evangelistic gospel witness in the UK is Protestantism and still using the KJV.
Check out the UK sermons on sermonaudio!
Any explanations?

http://bethelwimbledon.com/archives/category/bible-translation
"It is the most accurate English translation based on the best manuscripts i.e. Greek Textus Receptus and Hebrew Masoretic texts. However, it is not perfect and contains a few minor errors."

http://www.westcotthort.com/faqs.html
Westcott and Hort Resource Centre has W&H quotes in context, but not all. It is the W&H theory that is the problem. The US Fundamentalist KJO'ism will have the same problems with the KJV translators...see

http://www.corkfpc.com/cloud2cor11v3calvinism.html
David Cloud and the KJV Translators.

http://www.corkfpc.com/kjvcalvinism.html
Calvinism and the KJV controversy.

let us beware of extremism on both sides! "Reliable", "accurate" and "the best" surely must be our goal!!

"With the proliferation of Bibles, the public has become ***confused***," Ryken said. "There's no longer a genuine search to find an authentic Bible."
[URL=http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/septemberweb-only/49-41.0.html]]]Good News Glut Christianity Today[/URL]

Hmm that is one from your own side- ESV member of their translation committee telling us there is a BIG problem with a multiplicity of versions? How come Scott and Jim cannot see what is so very obvious?

Recall my post the other day about ***CONFUSION*** and you have a modern translator echoing that point? With respect I would have more interest if there was a concentrated scholarly effort to provide the ONE most accurate Bible translation

[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?keyword=authorised%20version]]]sermons by Mohon and Silversides[/URL]

[URL=http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/22/2344206/how-many-versions-of-the-bible.html]]]How Many Bibles Do We Need?[/URL]

Have a read of the above interesting recent news article my 'barbarian' USA brethren!

Q: Why promote a mutiplicity of versions and not ONE COMMON BIBLE VERSION for the English speaking folk? Why so difficult to have ONE common Bible version?

Prof Dawkins (yes that one!) speaking on the KJV
[URL=http://www.kingjamesbibletrust.org/news/q/date/2010/02/19/richard-dawkins-lends-his-support-to-2011-trust/]]]Here[/URL]

We should be praying that if Dawkins is so familair with the language of the KJV that the Lord would bring some word of conviction to his heart and save this great enemy of the TRUTH.

The Record wrote:
People Who Want To Emphasis FACTS With ALL CAPITAL LETTERS !
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/comments_view.asp?currPage=1&localsection=detail&whichtype=&keyword=A+Bible+Christian+Who+Believes&onlyname=true]]]Yes we all remember[/URL]

wherewillitend wrote:
#1 This never-ending monotonous version debate,will it never end?

The real question is why did it ever begin?

Michael raises an interesting point, but who really hinders even from the beginning?

Would Satan be the author of confusion and the persuader of even good men?

Have we ever thought that there is a camp who wrongly emphasise the KJV like Ruckman and Ripplinger etc? Ever asked WHY? Ever thought that satan hates the Reformation text and therefore the KJV and works from within wrongly promoting? Ask WHY?

Then there is a camp who rejects the KJV but rather than promote a next BEST ACCURATE new English translation, they muddy the water promoting ANY 'new' modern version will do and is better than the KJV.

But that isn't true. Why would a Pastor do such IF he had really studied all the issues? Dr White=NASB, Piper=ESV etc. Even the big names do not agree.

Have a listen to: They're no Puritans! Profiles in New Calvinism

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1022101212210

Jim Lincoln wrote:
So, the [A]nglican [V]ersion is something I won't even consider using on SermonAudio.
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But why was Sermonaudio commenced by an AV user in the first place? You must surely glorify in God's good providence seeing it is where you spend much of your time? No NASB websites where you can find fellowship

Why are most of the sermons on sermonaudio from churches so abundantly blessed of God, yet using a version you won't even consider?

In God's providence you could always post here and see what scholarly reaction your strange posts will merit, for I have heard few brethren with views as extreme as your own even if they do not use the AV:

John UK wrote:
Within hours of arrival at my destination I had the opportunity to witness to a JW for about half-hour. Good job our Bible has got 1 Tim 3:16 absolutely spot on.
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV

Comparing the JW version above

KJB - King James Bible
ESV - English Standard Version
NWT - New World Translation of the Jehovah’s Witnesses
NAB - New American Bible of the Roman Catholic Church

Makes your hair curl

For any who have imbibed all the Dr James White arguments, but wish to see why other Reformed brethren disagree with him (but who are not Ruckmanites), why not view the above recently preached sermon video by a speaker from the Trinitarian Bible Society and then watch the other 4 videos

Going Up wrote:
About Two Weeks Ago, At The Starbuck's Coffeeshop....Then I Woke Up

Sure they were sugar lumps you were putting in your Coffee?

[URL=http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4477079/2/istockphoto_4477079-sugar-cubes.jpg]]]Sugar lumps?[/URL]

Nathan wrote:
People I find are terribly uneducated

'He told his friend John Wesley of his plan to begin "field-preaching." Wesley thought the scheme insane..

Before long, however, a scheduled execution brought it about. Whitefield’s heart had been broken by the coalminers at Kingswood, Bristol – men as violent as they were vulgar. Once the date for the hanging had been set the miners began anticipating the celebrations surrounding the entertainment. When the murder "cheated" them of their amusement by committing suicide, the miners dug up the corpse and partied around it.