Greetings! Rick Warren went to Fuller Seminary. I happen to own a book about understanding church growth by Donald McGavran, who is believed to be the father of the Church Growth Movement. His approach is actually more of the social sciences than Biblical Theology.
Peter Wagner also went to Fuller as well as another famous Christian author on leadership today(his name slips me at the moment)

You ask/state: what is wrong with Roman Catholics and Evangelical Protestant getting together at abortion clinics to protest?

Well, I used to do this on weekends not long after the Lord saved me. I became bothered by the leader(a prominent young doctor in another area of Pa.)who purposely would back unto the property as he yelled through his bull-horn. This he did continually as they drove him away in the paddy wagon.
I had recently been converted and wanted to obey the Lord no matter what.
I even sought out pastoral counsel concerning civil disobedience at these death camps. As I saw him carted away I became convinced that this product of rome was doing this continually so he could be looked upon highly.
I began to actually hate all of the idol worship(medal, statues, prayer at cathedrals, etc.).
Although, it is a witnessing opportunity, I then began going to other large protests where other believers would also be present.
It was a very personal thing with me and I do believe in ecclesiatical separtion for certain main doctrines but I don't think that really applied here. I am not now a big protesting type and have always had evangelism as my main prioity. The gospel of rome is another gospel and not the gospel of the Bible.

My point was that to make it unlawful to own a gun or severely limiting that right, will not eliminate the ownership of guns to criminals. Sir, their are others tools for efficient and effective mass murders besides guns. A clear aim is the eventual elimination of all guns by a constitutional amendment, including those being used by millions of hunters.

You said:
"...other countries..."
Could you name them(plural), please?

"...problem to the extent the U.S. has..."
Statistics with the appropriate sources, please?(percentages with ratio of gun-related crimes to population)

Although, I have at times wrestled with the trust issue, as far as Christians being hypocritical who own guns for personal protection - do you take medicine or trust God?

______

John Yurich,

So, now you want to take the guns out of the hands of hunters who are thoroughly educated concerning gun safety and overthrow their constitutional rights.

"...seperation considered..."

"...promises(oath)to heretics need not be kept..."
Once again we see rome's statements of contradiction, similar to the so-called church fathers of whom they venerate.

According to their doctrine of mental reservation it is never proper to lie even to heretics unless one gave a promise of secrecy. This promise(oath) is primary.

popes
anti-popes
no popes
opposing
deposing
ignorance spoke
what a joke!
rome being unjust
arrested John Huss
councils issue decrees
heretics are holy sees!

Let them hang on until they retire and then maybe the replacement will be better?
Nonsense, this is the cult of Rome! You did give a great truth though: "...plenty of BAD BISHOPS in the rcc...".

This bad bishop of the Hbg. Diocese that you refer to is none other than the Cardinal from the U.S. William Keeler! ! !
- Sec. to Bishop Leech during the infamous II Vatican Council in Rome.
- Chairman of the N.C.C.B.'s Committee for Ecumenical and Religious Affairs, 1984-1987.
- Arranged meetings with Jewish and Protestant leaders during the 1987 papal visit.
- President of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, 1992-1995.
- Pontifical Council for promoting Christian Unity in the fall of 1994.

As you can see he is Mr. Ecumenism himself. I told my wife some twenty years ago that he would be a future pope trying to unite the faiths under popedom. It would also be a wise move politically for Rome to have a pope representing the U.S. as this would greatly increase popedom worship.

Simply another bad bishop because he has his own righteousness and not of Christ's.

Your opinion of course. "The Catholic Witness", the official newspaper of the Harrisburg Diocese of the Roman Catholic Church, SUPPORTED Michael Dukakis for President of the United States! Of course they were not speaking "ex cathedra". This was not hidden but displayed prominently on the front page! Surely, the bishop of this states capitols diocese would have rebuked the editor! Or maybe it should have went a step up the hierarchy ladder and the bishop of the archdiocese of Philadelphia should have rebuked the Hbg. diocese. Or maybe the pope since he has disdain for this nations bishops anyway!

Many a brother grim.
Because of "sin".
Problem deep within.
On the "cross", Christ did win!

Word from a minister.
"Gospel" can change one sinister.
For those in dire need.
Did Jesus bleed.

Before one castigates.
A wise man investigates.
Whether or not aware.
YOU - will be there ! ! !

Disregarding facts.
Accordingly he acts.
An foolish doubter.
No rest for the shouter.

A doubting Thomas.
Is among us.
Defend man, I must.
In self, I trust.

An eternal hell.
Is no fairy tale.
Not made for the shelve.
Into the Bible delve.

Of course there is greed(human nature-no surprise here)but socialism is stifling more than the economy.

Btw, my wife and I have been homeschooling for the past couple of decades and we decided long ago that we would never take any handouts from the government because of the possible control issue no matter what the cost(having to buy school supplie and our own curriculum and having to pay double by also incurring the local school taxes).

U.S. Socialist,
With a fist.
This is the gist.

Alan,
Amen, brother! One of my favorites is:

The following will be very helful:

Victor Budgen, states that HE WAS THERE when Mr. Wilkerson made his infamous false prophecy in 1972. If this information was coming second hand from me it of course would be hearsay however, it is a quote from Mr. Budgen, who witnessed the false prophecy personally.