Lurker wrote:
Cute, Yamil... but I'd suggest you keep your day job as a hireling. You'll never be able to feed your family as a comedian.

Lurker wrote:
Yes.... by the reprobate (Acts 7:51).
No..... by the elect (John 6:39).

The Calvinist handbook wrote:
"The Holy Spirit is irrisitible."

Acts 7:51 wrote:
"Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye."

The dehvastating truth is that NO WHERE in the Bible does it state that the Holy Spirit is irrisistible.

Now is the reader suppose to accept a simple declarative statement from God's word or is he suppose to make sense out of your convulted, redefining, revisionist, who-cares-about-the-laws-of-language, reinterpretation?

Ok. I'm ready for your itchty-twitchy dance now.
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I believe that the Bible is clear that man will not come to God unless God has taken the first step. The problem is that the Calvinist take that principle too far (about 1.2 million miles into the F_anciful L_and of the Calvinist) in insisting that God only draws a predetermined few.

That, my friend, we can both agree that is so foreign to the Scripture that it is almost laughable.

no

The difference between I and you is that you believe that man is morally unable to choose God. I believe he is. People reject God NOT because they CANNOT receive him but rather, they WILL NOT receive him.

It's not because God has not drawn them. For the scriptures give a irrefutable declarative statement:

I have proven to you that spiritual death in the scripture has nothing to do with inability. The Bible does not even make a remote connection between the two. That is something tha you simply eisogeted into the Scripture.

[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_death]]]Spiritual death means separation[/URL]

If you think you have discoverd some more ammo for your position, then I would not mind rehashing the topic with you.

You generally give sincere commentary and you are overall intellectually honest.

Why won't you try proving that the HOly Spirit is irrisistible first (the subject at hand) before you keep jumping around from point to point.

I agree with what you said with the last too paragraphs, although they have nothing to do with irrisisitble grace nor spiritual death.

I do not believe what you infer BTW, so you may need to focus on giving us a simple declarative statement from Scripture that STATES that infants must be baptized.

Pleader wrote:
Yamil;
If you believe you can resist God then you probably do!

Discerning Believer wrote:
Then you must believe that it is possible for a dead man laying in a casket can of his own power and own freewill rise up out of the casket and walk out.

The dehvastating truth is that NO WHERE in the Bible does it state that the Holy Spirit is irrisistible.

Spiritual death has nothing to do with resisting the Holy Ghost, otherwise you would had stopped sinning after your salvation. The only thing your perverted interpretation does for you practically is keep you in spiritual death until you reach sinless perfection.

Too bad that you have deen duped to believe the unprovable. The best you have is deductive reasoning.

I have in my favor simple declarative statements from God's word.

But the fact is that you can't prove any of the Calvinistic assertions that you made in the previous posts. You could've replaced each reference to Scripture with Genesis 1:1 and that would be just about how much weight your post would have. Simply tagging Scripture at the end of an assertion does not prove anything. You have to point us to a Scripture that actually STATES what you are saying. You can't simply use one perverted interpretation to prove another perverted interpretation.

The dehvastating truth is that there is not one thing that you Calvs believe concerning unconditional election that the Bible actually STATES.

Not one. Nada.

Get over it.

A [Presbyterian] wrote:
The reference here is to the correct recipients of baptism. Namely children of covenanted parents. eg Acts 2:39.

A [Presbyterian][/authot]
The Baptist denomination has however devised a hypothesis, which rejects infants due to their inability to utter the works based religious idea of a verbal rite in their ceremony.

The Calvinist handbook wrote:
"The Holy Spirit is irrisitible."

Acts 7:51 wrote:
"Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye."

The dehvastating truth is that NO WHERE in the Bible does it state that the Holy Spirit is irrisistible.

Now is the reader suppose to accept a simple declarative statement from God's word or is he suppose to make sense out of your convulted, redefining, revisionist, who-cares-about-the-laws-of-language, reinterpretation?

If I were to say that Calvinist qualifies one as having a mental disease. [not an adhominem]

... I would have more a burden of proof in my favor than Bib would have to prove his unfounded assertions about John 3:16.

But of course we know that he can't as demonstrated from his previous post.

It is the nature of calvinists to be able to pontificate assertions but when it comes down showing one the proof in the pudding, it turns out that they had no pudding to begin with.

That's hardly a conspiracy theory fellows.

Weapon of Mass Instruction= Yamil Luciano

Doctor of Truth= Yamil Luciano

Yamil Luciano= Yamil Luciano