JVJ wrote:
It would be like Abraham, called of God to leave his home, and to go out, not knowing where he was going.

Luke 12:51 Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. Father will be divided against son and son against father..

John 10:3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them OUT And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow Him, for they know his voice.

Now is the time to come OUT

Banned wrote:
Muslims are closest to the truth. They don't believe Jesus is God, but do believe he is conceived by the Holy Spirit, the Messiah coming back to defeat Antichrist. They love Jesus and idolize Mary almost as a goddess.

So much for the lie that God will bless those who bless Israel.

They will all die a eternal death apart from Christ. They all have rejected Christ's atoning work on the cross.

And unless you accept His free gift of salvation through the shed blood of Christ, you shall perish as well.

Repent and forsake your idols.

John Yurich wrote:
Atheist Barker as well as all atheists are mentally deranged and psychotic to stae that freedom of religion includes freedom from religion.

1 Cor 1:26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, that no flesh should glory in His presence.

Christian Raas wrote:
What are these people waiting for? There already is a 'Church of England (Continuing') www.cofec.org which is holding to the original Anglican confession, the original Book of Prayer, the original 39 Articles and who uses and honours the Authorized Version. In fact the CofEC might be the only Anglican denomination worthy of that name!!

John Yurich wrote:
Why should I leave the RCC? I will still gain entrance into Heaven even if I do not leave the RCC because I fulfilled the only requirement there is for gaining entrance into Heaven which is to receive Jesus as ones Savior.

The RCC has anathematized the Gospel of Free grace and anyone who believes it. Staying in this communion with it's official teaching condones these teachings.

In other words you, and your communion teach that Christ's s sacrifice was not “sufficient” to save those who were lost. Man must be: Baptized by a priest, believe the church’s teachings, live a life of charity and love, confess one’s sins to a priest, and pray for forgiveness to idols, and then suffer the chastisement of your shortcomings while in purgatory.

GG wrote:
"You've hit upon THE major issue..."
Resp: Then let me make sure that you understand clearly our POV. We are saved by God's Grace, through faith....but NOT BY FAITH ALONE, rather we were saved by Faith, Hope, and Charity.

David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works (including charity): "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, And whose sins are covered; Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin."

Charity is a "work"!

If you are looking to obtain salvation through your charity, then your uncharitable deeds will be accounted to you as a debt.

GG wrote:
Anathema does not call down God's curse in order to send you to Hell, not like you did to BXVI, but it cuts you off from the graces available from the RCC.

GG wrote:
In other words, because he doesn't believe in the gospel according to "JIM", you have called down God's curse on another Christian man. Boy, I hope you know what you're doing!

(In other words infused righteousness rather than imputed rigteousness) RA

CANON XII.-If any one saith, that justifying faith is nothing else but confidence in the divine mercy which remits sins for Christ's sake; or, that this confidence alone is that whereby we are justified; let him be anathema.

CANON'S XI and XII from the Council of Trent.

And the man called "THE POPE" has a right to call down God's curse on millions of protestants because we don't beleive in the Gospel according to "THE POPE" and "GG"?

CANON XI.-If any one saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins, to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified, is only the favour of God; let him be anathema.

(In other words infused righteousness rather than imputed rigteousness) RA

CANON XII.-If any one saith, that justifying faith is nothing else but confidence in the divine mercy which remits sins for Christ's sake; or, that this confidence alone is that whereby we are justified; let him be anathema.

"Corinthian Baptists"

Faithful Remnant wrote:
I have heard this also about Acts being historical but not intended to support one's doctrinal opinion. It doesn't sit well with me either. Is this about using Acts to support some form of baptism?

lyn wrote:
Rogerant, your comment would seem to nullify 2 Timothy 3:16, "ALL scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness."
No offense, but I will continue to allow the Holy Spirit to lead me in all truth, along with Godly men whom I trust.

Oh I see, you don't trust ungodly men like myself. Right, no offence.

lyn wrote:
Rogerant, again, I will not bite. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I quoted a verse from Acts, so that isn't my opinion, but the word of God. I know what God has done for me, and I praise Him.
God bless

The book of Acts is not a "How To Do Church and Church Liturgy FOR DUMMIES" It is a historical book. Your "HOW TO" book for doing church properly is in Exodus, Levititcus and a covenental link between circumcism and baptism.

1 Cor. 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

lyn wrote:
Rogerant, I refuse to involve myself in the merry go round of c. vs. a. for the simple fact that God didn't call me to argue with 'professing' Christians, but to proclaim the Gospel.
As for water baptism, I tried that in the eighth grade at my old Lutheran Church. Needless to say, I went on to live a most immoral and godless life.

BTW: Your salvation took place at the cross if you are saved, not by your "experience" at an event in your life of subjective repentance. You were save by an objective "work" at the cross

True salvation is evidenced in the resurrection. The resurrection was the evidence of our acquittal. Romans 4:26

lyn wrote:
It would be hard for an infant to hear and comprehend such a message.

Nathan wrote:
As every day goes by it appears the labour pains are bearing down on many true christian as they are forced out of their mother church into the real world to walk on their own two feet with Christ.
It seems ever more greater an impossiblility that I will ever find myself in a church again as the cancerous apostasies flow through the very veins of the body rendering it almost dead.
For 14 years I have been attempting to find a body of believers I can fellowship with, it's like flogging a dead horse. Pentecostal, Baptist, Presbyterian, Anglican etc.
I've been hearing the Lord speaking for some time, reach out to those in the same situation. Gather my people together. This call gets clearer every day.

RtG wrote:
I showed you that in David's case the Lord was angry. It appears that you think the crucifiction changed God in His attributes, that He now restrains His anger at His post NT children???
Why?

As you can read at the end of Gill's document, for believers, post atonement:

RtG wrote:
I use the whole Bible Not just one part of it. It is the whole counsel of God, and teaches about God working with His people.
I do not dismiss the OT since Jesus taught that He came not to destroy it but to fulfil it.
Heb 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the CHASTENING of the Lord, nor faint when thou art REBUKED of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he CHASTENETH, and SCOURGETH every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure CHASTENING, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father CHASTENETH not?
I do not have a problem with my Father angry at me. In point of fact like Spurgeon, I would be very surprised if at times, He were not angry at His children.
"As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

RtG wrote:
We are not perfect YET!